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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday September 05 2017, @04:55PM   Printer-friendly
from the will-it-become-dark? dept.

The January rumours were true and on Friday Oracle laid off the core talent from the Solaris and SPARC teams, in effect finally killing what they had left of Sun Microsystems. When Oracle aquired Sun, there were a lot of valuable assets, each of which, except VirtualBox, has been squandered and abandoned. Simon Phipps enumerates the main ones and what happened to them.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by mendax on Tuesday September 05 2017, @07:21PM (5 children)

    by mendax (2840) on Tuesday September 05 2017, @07:21PM (#563879)

    Oracle has yet to kill Java, another asset acquired from Sun Microsystems. There has been speculation that it will spin it off somewhere but I'm inclined to doubt it.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by bob_super on Tuesday September 05 2017, @07:37PM

    by bob_super (1357) on Tuesday September 05 2017, @07:37PM (#563885)

    Java is consistently in the top3 of languages used.

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 05 2017, @08:07PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 05 2017, @08:07PM (#563900)

    I read something in TFA about Oracle wanting to unload it onto some kind of foundation.

    Java just isn't going away. I use IcedTea (OpenJDK) on my machines at home. Prevents me from having to fetch the installer tarball from Oracle's retarded website.

    Apparently NetBeans is going to Apache, too. That's fine with me. NetBeans is a decent IDE.

    Common confusions: No, I'm not talking about applets. Nobody uses applets anymore. No, I'm not talking about AWT or Swing applications. Nobody uses Java desktop applications anymore (except NetBeans). No, I'm not talking about appy Android apps used by modern app appers. (I'm a LUDDITE, I guess.) I'm talking about servlets and web applications. The Java open source community for server-side is huge. Apache Commons has a ton of stuff.

    There's too much momentum for it to go away. Even if Oracle tried to shut it down, everybody would switch to OpenJDK/IcedTea. Of course, last time I thought that some retarded judge made a retarded judgement that made that murkier, so I suppose there's always the possibility for the BSA to have a field day, but I don't know what would be the point. (Greed, avarice, spite...)

    • (Score: 1) by tbuskey on Saturday September 09 2017, @11:45AM

      by tbuskey (6127) on Saturday September 09 2017, @11:45AM (#565607)

      There's too much momentum for it to go away. Even if Oracle tried to shut it down, everybody would switch to OpenJDK/IcedTea.

      I'd like to find a Windows OpenJDK installer. Our product uses OpenJDK on Linux, but some of our developers are using Windows. They need to use Oracle's JDK.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 06 2017, @07:27AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 06 2017, @07:27AM (#564073)

    Which parts?

    Desktop Java was stillborn. Browser Java has been dead so long that even the banks have mostly caught on. Oracle even sued Google to kill mobile Java. The only thing left is server-side Java which has the advantage of being so slow that you need a Sparc cluster for it to be useful, which is why it's been kept alive - to sell more Sparc machines.

    With Oracle killing off Sparc, there is no point in keeping the remains of Java alive.

  • (Score: 2) by arslan on Wednesday September 06 2017, @07:37AM

    by arslan (3462) on Wednesday September 06 2017, @07:37AM (#564076)

    Can they even if they want to? Other folks like Apache and IBM produce their own Java runtime off the spec. People can just move to it. If anything I'd rather like to see Oracle give up on it and Apache take ownership.