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posted by martyb on Saturday September 09 2017, @12:09AM   Printer-friendly
from the stock-up-on-oj-now dept.

[Ed note: for up-to-date info, see also: NOAA National Hurricane Center, Mike's Weather Page, windy.com, NWS - Hourly Weather Forecast Graph - Tampa, and NWS - Hourly Weather Forecast Graph - Miami.]

At 8:28AM September 5, Zero Hedge reported

Irma is now the [strongest] hurricane [ever] in the Atlantic basin, outside of the Caribbean Sea and Gulf of Mexico, in [US National Hurricane Center] records.

[...] meteorologist Eric Holthaus writes that Hurricane Irma is now expected to *exceed* the theoretical maximum intensity for a storm in its environment, or as he puts it "Redefining the rules".

[...] Irma's current path--headed straight for Florida--has prompted the state to prepare for the "catastrophic" system.

Unlike Harvey, which caused widespread damage, power outages and flooding and taking almost a fifth of U.S. oil refining capacity offline, Irma is a bigger threat to agriculture, with orange juice futures surging.

[...] Florida is the world's largest producer of orange juice after Brazil. About two-thirds of the state's citrus crop is located in the lower two-thirds of the peninsula.

[...] Airlines have canceled flights across the Caribbean and are adding planes to evacuate tourists, while cruise-line stocks have tumbled.

[...] Only three Category 5 hurricanes have hit the contiguous 48 U.S. states, [said Bob Henson, a meteorologist with Weather Underground:] The Labor Day Hurricane of 1935 that devastated the Florida Keys, Hurricane Camille in 1969, and Hurricane Andrew that cut across Florida in 1992. Andrew was originally classified as a Category 4 storm only to be upgraded years later after further analysis.

"It is obviously a rare breed", Henson said. "We are in rare territory."

At 12:37PM September 5, Heavy.com reported

The Florida governor has declared a state of emergency as Hurricane Irma reaches a Category 5 storm. The Florida Keys are currently in the hurricane's path, although the storm remains unpredictable.

[...] Irma has [...] maximum sustained winds [of] 185 mph. It was moving west at 14 mph and is about 270 miles east of Antigua. The Florida Keys are in the projected path of the hurricane, according to September 4 late evening forecasts.


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday September 09 2017, @02:02AM (15 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday September 09 2017, @02:02AM (#565448) Homepage Journal

    I'm saying there is no compromise to be had on this issue. People will die. Quite a lot of them.

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  • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Saturday September 09 2017, @02:15AM (9 children)

    by bob_super (1357) on Saturday September 09 2017, @02:15AM (#565452)

    > People will die. Quite a lot of them.

    Precisely why some people believe it's worth talking about.

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday September 09 2017, @02:19AM (8 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday September 09 2017, @02:19AM (#565455) Homepage Journal

      Oh, we can talk. You just can't say "we're going to take away your guns" or you're going to get the response "over my dead body".

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      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
      • (Score: 5, Touché) by dry on Saturday September 09 2017, @03:51AM (2 children)

        by dry (223) on Saturday September 09 2017, @03:51AM (#565489) Journal

        I thought all these people claimed to be law abiding.

        • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 09 2017, @05:51AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 09 2017, @05:51AM (#565514)

          I doubt all of "these people" actually agree with that. There's nothing inherently good about being law-abiding; it depends on the law.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 09 2017, @09:12AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 09 2017, @09:12AM (#565556)

            Correct. The authors of the Bill of Rights, being a group of very intelligent men as well as veterans of a long and bloody revolution, made it clear that assuring the people the means of last resort to resist intolerable laws is essential to political freedom.

            There is nothing in the 2nd Amendment that needs changing. We already have statutory proscription of errant behavior, cf. murder.

            Regulatory mechanisms may need some fine-tuning, but the second amendment itself stands as the last line of defense for the other nine.

      • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Saturday September 09 2017, @04:55AM

        by maxwell demon (1608) on Saturday September 09 2017, @04:55AM (#565500) Journal

        "Your proposal is acceptable." ;-)

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        The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
      • (Score: 2, Informative) by aristarchus on Saturday September 09 2017, @06:48AM (3 children)

        by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday September 09 2017, @06:48AM (#565529) Journal

        Coming for your guns, Brousarrd! One of the prerequisites, after all, is a "well regulated militia". Now, you see, this is why we cannot have white supremacy, because nearly every one who believes in white supremacy (Check out the latest on the "Crying Nazi"! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpmWo8f7y2c [youtube.com] so sad!) is a fuching coward, much like our Buzzard here. Guns? Do you think guns determine politics? Have you possibly been indoctrinated by the US Miltiary? Oh, you poor sap! No wonder you have no problem with suppressing speech you disagree with! Free Aristarchus! You hypocritical bastard.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 09 2017, @09:27AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 09 2017, @09:27AM (#565559)

          "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun" -Mao Zedong

          • (Score: -1, Informative) by aristarchus on Saturday September 09 2017, @10:55AM (1 child)

            by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday September 09 2017, @10:55AM (#565582) Journal

            "Grows" : it doesn't start there, it needs seeds of social justice!
            It is as Mencius [孟子] said:

            孟子曰:「人皆有不忍人之心。先王有不忍人之心,斯有不忍人之政矣。以不忍人之心,行不忍人之政,治天下可運之掌上。所以謂人皆有不忍人之心者,今人乍見孺子將入於井,皆有怵惕惻隱之心。非所以內交於孺子之父母也,非所以要譽於鄉黨朋友也,非惡其聲而然也。由是觀之,無惻隱之心,非人也;無羞惡之心,非人也;無辭讓之心,非人也;無是非之心,非人也。惻隱之心,仁之端也;羞惡之心,義之端也;辭讓之心,禮之端也;是非之心,智之端也。人之有是四端也,猶其有四體也。有是四端而自謂不能者,自賊者也;謂其君不能者,賊其君者也。凡有四端於我者,知皆擴而充之矣,若火之始然,泉之始達。苟能充之,足以保四海;苟不充之,不足以事父母。」

            http://ctext.org/mengzi/gong-sun-chou-i

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 10 2017, @02:19AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 10 2017, @02:19AM (#565846)

              Oooh! Looks like aristarchus has won the coveted -1 Informative mod! I wonder, which is more prestigious, the -1 Informative, or the +5 Troll?

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by melikamp on Saturday September 09 2017, @02:21AM (1 child)

    by melikamp (1886) on Saturday September 09 2017, @02:21AM (#565458) Journal

    This can't be right. If a US Marshall knocked on your door with a court order to take your gun or take you, you would calmly give her your gun, called your lawyer, and sued the state or the fed. The type of people you must be alluding to would do just the same, except they can't call their lawyer, because they can't afford one, having spent all their cash on white people drugs and guns. I am saying "white people" because let's face it, black people in this country can't even carry their legally purchased guns outta Walmart without being shot at, so it really is a white-only amendment for most intents and purposes. I can only imagine what would happen if a peace officer broke down a wrong door by mistake and faced a black dude wearing a legally obtained gun, petting his german sheppard. Oh shit, there would be no end to apologies.

    Anyway, only hardened criminals and suicidal maniacs would make a stand at that point. We all know it's true, because 99% or more people are sheeple, and would sell their own mothers before angering the G-Man. So please elaborate. Please detail for us a scenario where anyone but criminally insane would shoot people over a lawful and democratic attempt to rein in the gun-related violence. Keep in mind that not even a state army can always hope to rebel successfully (look at Turkey), and these people have ALL the biggest and loudest weapons.

    • (Score: 2, Disagree) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday September 09 2017, @10:49AM

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday September 09 2017, @10:49AM (#565578) Homepage Journal

      Bitch, please. There was a black feller open carrying at Wal-Mart yesterday evening whilst I was getting groceries. In Tennessee. Your imagined racism bullshit don't fucking fly down in the South where we all live together more or less peacefully.

      And no, you'll hear "shots fired" and "officer down" over the scanner if anyone shows up wanting to take anything that's mine; badge or no badge. You also might want to rethink your 99% statement. That might be true over in Europe where they're historically used to getting their necks stepped on but we as a nation tend to react violently to any perceived attempt to take our liberties by force.

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      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 09 2017, @04:33PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 09 2017, @04:33PM (#565693)

    Unless you are in favor of federal inmates having guns in their cells, you are in favor of the federal government imposing some level of gun control. Maybe some day we can have a reasonable discussion on where that level should be drawn and why.

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday September 09 2017, @11:20PM

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday September 09 2017, @11:20PM (#565791) Homepage Journal

      I'd actually be fine with that. Solve a lot of funding issues for the penal system pretty quickly.

      --
      My rights don't end where your fear begins.
    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday September 10 2017, @07:55AM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday September 10 2017, @07:55AM (#565896) Journal

      I'll take Buzzard's position on guns in the cells. The government shouldn't be in the business of warehousing people to start with. If a man is a danger to society, you put him down. If he's not a danger to society, and he's done something wrong, you fine him, and have him do some community service. Prison for profit is just a new twist on slavery. No, it's not exactly "slavery", but it's closely related. Give the prisoners guns, and clean up they system.