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posted by Fnord666 on Sunday September 10 2017, @11:11PM   Printer-friendly
from the lights-out dept.

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Nation-sponsored hackers have penetrated the operational networks multiple US and European energy companies use to control key parts of the power grid that supplies electricity to hundreds of millions of people, researchers warned Wednesday.

The incursions detected by security firm Symantec represent a dramatic escalation by a hacking group dubbed Dragonfly, which has been waging attacks against US and European energy companies since at least 2011. In 2014, Symantec reported that Dragonfly was aggressively establishing beachheads in a limited number of target networks, mainly by stealing the user names and passwords used to restrict access to legitimate personnel. Over the past year, the hacking group has managed to compromise dozens of energy firms and, in a handful of cases, install backdoors in the highly sensitive networks the firms use to supply power to the grid.

[...] After this Ars post went live, several security professionals with expertise in electric grids downplayed the likelihood of the operational network compromises being used to cause blackouts or take down parts of the grid. Robert Lee, the founder and CEO of Dragos Security, said the hackers would need more than the mere ability to control human machine interfaces that flip switches and open and close breakers. While he said an attack that mimicked the techniques that disrupted Ukrainian power in 2015 was possible, he said differences in the US grid would make those tactics much less effective.

Source: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/09/hackers-lie-in-wait-after-penetrating-us-and-europe-power-grid-networks/


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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday September 12 2017, @08:37AM (4 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday September 12 2017, @08:37AM (#566622) Journal

    Someone didn't read the Equifax stories.

    And someone won't be able to read those Equifax stories after the collapse either.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 13 2017, @05:59AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 13 2017, @05:59AM (#567094)

    I'll spell it out for you: a lot of people were doxxed.

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday September 13 2017, @06:07AM (2 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 13 2017, @06:07AM (#567095) Journal

      I'll spell it out for you: a lot of people were doxxed.

      And where will that information be stored?

      • (Score: 1) by anubi on Wednesday September 13 2017, @12:07PM (1 child)

        by anubi (2828) on Wednesday September 13 2017, @12:07PM (#567186) Journal

        These databases are searchable. Follow the money. Who got paid. For what. Where.

        If I were running away from a world of people I had wronged, going to my own "private" bunker to ride it out? That's like me screwing my neighbor then thinking I can go into my own house and close the door on him. If he's mad enough, little may stop him from getting his hands on a bulldozer, as if I wronged him of everything he had, he has nothing to lose, and he's really pissed at me, he is now apt to consider suicide which involves me as well.

        Read the news. This kinda stuff happens all the time with wronged people. Hit 'em hard enough and they are coming back after you, even willing to pay the ultimate price.

        One does not do people that way. History is full of examples of people who did this, and none came out to a very good end. Karma's a bitch.

        This same paradigm scales from a neighborhood dispute to the fall of the Roman Empire.

        --
        "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday September 13 2017, @01:02PM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday September 13 2017, @01:02PM (#567201) Journal

          These databases are searchable.

          Only if you have the data and a way to search that data. Given that we've been bouncing around scenarios where having electric power is an unusual, temporary thing, I don't think we'd have to worry about a searchable database that no one has the technology to search.

          If I were running away from a world of people I had wronged, going to my own "private" bunker to ride it out? That's like me screwing my neighbor then thinking I can go into my own house and close the door on him. If he's mad enough, little may stop him from getting his hands on a bulldozer, as if I wronged him of everything he had, he has nothing to lose, and he's really pissed at me, he is now apt to consider suicide which involves me as well.

          I'm not similarly impressed. History isn't filled with this kind of thing despite your claim to the contrary.