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DNA proves fearsome Viking warrior was a woman:
A 10th century Viking unearthed in the 1880s was like a figure from Richard Wagner's Ride of the Valkyries: an elite warrior buried with a sword, an ax, a spear, arrows, a knife, two shields, and a pair of warhorses. [...] a new study published today in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology finds that the warrior was a woman—the first high-status female Viking warrior to be identified. Excavators first uncovered the battle-ready body among several thousand Viking graves near the Swedish town of Birka, but for 130 years, most assumed it was a man—known only by the grave identifier, Bj 581. [...] Now, the warrior's DNA proves her sex, suggesting a surprising degree of gender balance in the Vikings' violent social order.
Her name was Lagertha.
Reference: Charlotte Hedenstierna-Jonson, et. al., A female Viking warrior confirmed by genomics, American Journal of Physical Anthropology, DOI: 10.1002/ajpa.23308
(Score: 4, Interesting) by kurenai.tsubasa on Tuesday September 12 2017, @02:42PM (12 children)
Sure, there are people out there who are free thinkers and believe in equality, who, for reasons I cannot comprehend, call themselves “feminists.”
Feminism is and always has been a cisfemale supremacist movement, and the arguments they use are just as execrable as the arguments that white supremacists use. The example I always like to go to are giftpilzen, Schrödinger's rapist, M&Ms, and Skittles. It was popular in Germany to compare ethnic Jews to mushrooms. Many mushrooms are good to eat (and it seems modern science keeps adding to the cornucopia of uses for different mushrooms), but some mushrooms are poisonous. These days people are conditioned to knee jerk at the mention of Nazis and their giftpilze, which I guess is better than nothing but clearly leaves something to be desired in the faculties of the knee jerker for deeper ethical thought. Why is comparing an entire demographic to poisoned mushrooms ethically deficient?
We see the same pattern as the mushrooms with Schrödinger's rapist. Again, an entire demographic is compared to something dangerous, be it a poisoned mushroom or a “rapist.” The data will show that rape happens to men as well as women, and that violent assaults are most likely to be perpetrated by somebody the victim already knows, all too often a family member. However, the theory of Schrödinger's rapist proposes that rape is equally likely to be perpetrated by any man and only men. Finally, just like the advice the Nazis gave their children about ethnic Jews and poisoned mushrooms, feminism tells women that all men, without exception (this is explicit in the essay that describes the nature of this quantum, body-hopping rapist), a potential rapists, so they must be treated as actual rapists.
I'm certain, too, that there are ethnic Jews who are international bankers, 0.01%ers, and all around poisonous mushrooms. That does not mean that all ethnic Jews are international bankers and poisonous mushrooms. It is wrong to propose that ethnic Jews be second-class citizens. Yet, feminism, by its actions, very much believes that all assigned males—and I'm not talking about gender here exactly here because that is not what it is a question of in practical terms; I'm talking about legal status—should be second class citizens.
Now we get to the M&Ms and Skittles. So, it happened in the Twitsphere that there was a brief rallying around #notallmen. Iirc it was something about sexual harassment or something. Yet again, we see feminists rally behind the notion that all men are poisoned mushrooms. In fact, it could not have been more explicit in the Tweet that Salon captured and held up as an example of “enlightened” feminist thought. The reason that all men need to continuously receive degrading hate speech from feminist demagogues is because all men are like a bowl of M&Ms where “10%” had been poisoned!
Finally, there are Skittles. When Trump's kid posted something about ethnic Jews being like Skittles, then the comparison to those old Nazi giftpilze rocketed forth in the media.
So, in review:
Well, I'm glad that's cleared up!
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday September 12 2017, @04:24PM (11 children)
Okay you know what Kurenai? Go fuck yourself. I'm tired of listening to you compare the worst of the worst, the scummy genocidal TERFs, to ordinary women. Shit like this is in part WHY there are TERFs; your unhinged, aggrieved ranting does nothing but add fuel to the dumpster fire of the "transwomen are whiny, mentally-unstable drama queens" stereotype.
And the answer to #notallmen isn't, you'll notice, #yesallmen, but #yesallwomen. I'd personally have worded that as "notallmenbutwaytoodamnmany, but I guess that wouldn't fly the the identity politics focus of an unfortunately large chunk of the Third Wave :/
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday September 12 2017, @04:33PM (6 children)
You just completely agreed with him while telling him to go fuck himself. This amuses me.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday September 12 2017, @04:35PM (5 children)
Er, no, Uzzard. Try reading for comprehension. *She* is, once again, equating the entirety of cisgender women--she's not even sticking to just feminists now!--with the TERFy lunatics at the Michigan Womyn's Music Festival. My response to her is, once again, "cut that shit out; this is why no one takes you seriously."
She's right that the TERFs and fellow-travelers are nuts. She's wrong that 51% of the human race wants her dead or worse.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday September 12 2017, @04:40PM (4 children)
Read his post again without your panties bunched up your ass. He was talking about feminists not all women.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday September 12 2017, @05:07PM (1 child)
Read his previous posts without your jockstrap tied tightly 'round your eyes and looped under your beak like some freaky avian BDSM slave; she has quite often dumped on *all* cis women ("cisgender hunnies") in the past and has been known to conflate them with feminists, and all feminists with the TERF brigade, sometimes in the very same post. Ironically, this very same sin of overgeneralization is what she accuses others of.
And yes, that is a she. I don't get the whole trans thing either, but there is enough evidence in the form of in vivo and cadaver brain imagery and dissections to show that trans people have different brain structures than we do and they're not faking it or insane. It seems to be a particular manifestation of some sort of body-image integrity disorder.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Tuesday September 12 2017, @05:35PM
Clarification on the Hunnies thing. I see I failed with that one, and it did not adequate capture all that I had hoped it would.
What I had in mind was disgust levied equally at men and women. At men, because how disrespectful do you have to be to half the planet's population to believe they perpetually need some guy's protection (and only a guy's protection, and not only that, but the speaker's protection against other guys, because the speaker is often the One Good Man). At women, because how the crap can somebody be happy being somebody else's Hunny?!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 12 2017, @06:36PM (1 child)
I think TMB insists on calling Kurenai "he" because it is actually TMBs infiltrator account where he can post his screed from a "SJW" puppet. Horribly unstable people.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday September 12 2017, @07:33PM
Oh no, Uzzard's a known trans-hater. I won't say -phobe because he's not scared; he's an asshole. It's been pointed out to him several times that gender-noncomforming people have existed in every society going as far back as we have records, that modern brain imaging techniques show there's something different at the physical level about them, but he's immune to evidence. You see, he has an ick, and he has ideas of How The World Should Work (TM) and if the world doesn't work that way, well then by Crom the world is *wrong.* So sayeth Uzzard.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Tuesday September 12 2017, @05:24PM (2 children)
First, I am talking about feminists, not all women. One is not born a feminist. Our Viking here did not know the word feminist. Feminism does not even speak for all women, TERFs and trans women aside.
Was about to post a correction to my post, since I thought I wasn't remembering the Skittles correctly, but I might as well work it into a response here. Turns out I was correct about being incorrect. Syrian refugees [nytimes.com] are the demographic most like Skittles.
Compare Skittles:
And Salon is the wrong source for M&Ms. Slate [slate.com] is the expert on M&Ms. (You're already aware of the context from our past conversations, but I'm also posting for the peanut gallery.) Martin Wagner tweets:
(For the peanut gallery, the M&Ms came before the Skittles. I've yet to read somewhere in the media where anybody has attempted to resolve the inherent cognitive dissonance here. There might be something out there, so please educate me!)
So perhaps what we need to answer the Skittles is #yesallwhites. Does that sound agreeable?
After all, quoting Karin Robinson as reported by Slate:
I think we can reasonably conclude that not all Syrian refugees are violent against whites for example (or they could be mutilating genitals, they could be rapists, take your pick of whatever morally reprehensible thing somebody who is a Syrian refugee might do), but all whites have to navigate a world where those who are look the same as those who aren't.
Did it ever occur to #yesallwomen that people who aren't womyn-born-womyn also feel unsafe or vulnerable in public places from time to time, perhaps frequently? Did it occur to a single person going #yesallwomen that being assigned the male gender at birth does not make one a 6'5" linebacker?
If it did, please post the link or give me something I can head off to the library to find, because I must read it. Would you please also refresh my memory as concerns violent crime statistics where a man is the perpetrator and a woman is the victim? That is what we're talking about, right, violent assault?
Additionally, what do these perpetually frightened womyn-born-womyn plan to do about it, even if I'm supposed to accept that for reasons there is something I will never understand here, some special secret threat I will never know and cannot be articulated? I think our Viking warrior in TFS would have some helpful ideas could we ask her. Hint: when seconds matter, the… this isn't going to be strictly correct but bear with me… the húskarl are minutes away.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday September 12 2017, @06:03PM (1 child)
Do you truly think it didn't occur to them? I don't know, maybe I'm giving the identity-politics brigade too much credit, but there is a very good reason my brand of feminism involves outreach to men and trying to help them break out of the prison the kyriarchy puts them in (and why I tend to say kyriarchy rather than patriarchy...). Society tells boys and men not to be kind, not to be nurturing, not to have emotions, and above all never to ask for help. This is why I think any feminism that intends to make real progress needs to face these issues and help our menfolk too. If nothing else, how many men are we losing from professions like nursing and teaching because society tells them it's unmanly? And let's not even get into the circumcision thing; no one's genitalia should be mutilated, no matter which set they have or neither or both.
All that said, yes, there *is* some "secret fear" (and it's not even secret if you're paying afuckingttention) that most men do not deal with. It can be quickly if somewhat imprecisely summed up as "in the field of dating and romance, men worry about women rejecting them, women worry about men raping and/or killing them for said rejection."
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Tuesday September 12 2017, @10:37PM
Wikipedia for kyriarchy [wikipedia.org] includes:
That checks out, especially the internalized oppression part. It's definitely a more complete theory.
That might be too imprecise for me, particularly the word worry. Do you have statistics I can take a look at?
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 12 2017, @06:31PM
Thanks for clearing up the hashtag there. I was wondering why feminists suddenly had a preference for short men.