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Speaking at the Noisebridge hackerspace Tuesday evening, Chelsea Manning implored a crowd of makers, nerds, and developers to be ethical coders.
"As a coder, I know that you can build a system and it works, but you're thinking about the immediate result, you're not thinking about that this particular code could be misused, or it could be used in a different manner," she said, as part of a conversation with Noisebridge co-founder Mitch Altman.
Altman began the conversation by asking about artificial intelligence and underscoring some of the risks in that field.
"We're now using huge datasets with all kinds of personal data, that we don't even know what information we're putting out there and what it's getting collected for," Manning said. "Our AI systems are getting better and better and better, and we don't know what the social consequences of that are. The code that we write, the bias that you see in some of the systems that you see, we don't know if we're causing feedback loops with those kinds of bias."
[...] "The tools that you make for marketing can also be used to kill people," Manning continued. "We have an obligation to think of the tools that we're making and how we're using them and not just churn out code for whatever reason. You want to think about how your end-user could misuse your code."
Guns don't kill people, code kills people.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 14 2017, @04:35PM (10 children)
You do realize your shitty font is a dead give away right? And what is it with you types, the story wasn't even about the sex change and you still have to harp on about it. Nothing screams insecurity like being bothered by a transsexual wanting to be referred to as their altered gender
Did you get their gender wrong and got some flak? Just say "sorry" and move on. Or continue wasting effort on such a trivial issue. YOU DO YOU!
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday September 14 2017, @05:07PM (8 children)
This is likely someone who has bisexual leanings and is insecure about it. From what I've seen, people who are secure about their own sexuality and gender don't care what others do.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Thursday September 14 2017, @06:56PM (1 child)
Frequently, yes, but a lot of it also comes from people who are simply religious zealots. When was the last time you heard of an strongly anti-gay atheist?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday September 14 2017, @07:41PM
You'd be amazed. I know for example of a few extremely hardcore "pro-life" atheists, who use basically every single bad argument their religious bretheren do aside from "God doesn't like it." Seeing through one delusion doesn't mean seeing through all of them. I'm also not an atheist, I just don't believe that God cares whether or not anyone believes in It.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Scrutinizer on Saturday September 16 2017, @03:36PM (5 children)
It's less about "not caring" and more about "not sticking a gun in their faces to force them to stop" (at least for those of us heterosexuality advocates who aren't mind-broken authoritarians gone through the wringer of government schooling).
There are many behaviors which are statistically harmful to the individual and/or society, such as gambling, the illegal War on Drugs encouraging use and addiction to manufactured "street drugs", and eating high-glycemic carbohydrates. Some people also view the abnormal behavior of choosing a same-sex sexual partner as statistically harmful to the individual (particularly for men) and/or society. Reductio ad absurdum, of course, leads to a dearth of gene pool diversity along the way to the extinction of humanity.
In the same manner as it is criminally insane to kill or threaten to kill a suicidal person to force them to stop being suicidal, it would be just as criminal for someone who views homosexuality as harmful to self and society to attempt to use force to prevent that behavior.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday September 17 2017, @06:03AM (4 children)
You know, we gay women have the lowest STD rates across the board save for, IIRC, one weak strain of chlamydia. Leaving aside the fact that people don't choose to be straight or gay, the fact that it's statistically more harmful for gay men to have sex than gay women says what we're looking at here isn't a gay problem, it's a male problem. Specifically something with mens' biology and/or behavior. You kiiiiinda stepped in it up to the knee with that one there, chief ;)
I am humoring you of course: your entire post is self-serving batshittery. "Heterosexuality advocate," wtf. *I* am a heterosexuality advocate, *for heterosexuals.* Do what comes naturally to you. I'll do what comes naturally to me (and incidentally be less likely to get everything from AIDS to the clap than you). Hmmm, you sorta made a statistical argument for lesbianism there, didn't you?
Also, please tell me which is it: are "government schools" forcing people at gunpoint to...er...be overly PC and accepting of the Gay Agenda (I am told by the Chief Gay (TM) that this is a faaaabulous purple day planner with a rainbow ribbon!) or are they forcing people at gunpoint to force other people at gunpoint to be not-gay? Your posts are confusing and self-contradictory as always.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 18 2017, @01:06AM (3 children)
I acknowledge that possibility. However, I think it is more likely that you read only every third word of my post and decided to follow several rabbit trails of your own making. The only point you made that directly applies to my post is in regards to "heterosexuality advocate", which as denoted by the parenthesis, is a minor point meant to head off a proper accusation that there ARE mind-broken authoritarians grown in government schools who would very much like to point government guns at homosexuals and kill them if they "don't stop being gay".
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday September 18 2017, @01:48AM (2 children)
That sort of behavior is far more likely to show up in homeschooled kids in the Bible Belt, and you--and everyone reading this--knows that. If anything, public ("government") schools have been blamed for all sorts of "degeneracy." I have literally never, ever, not once, seen someone on your side of the aisle argue this before.
You are self-serving bullshitter, which is a much worse thing than a liar. If a liar is Truth's rapist, a bullshitter is her obese, impotent, drug-addled pimp, who can't even appreciate her for what she is as he violates her by proxy.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 18 2017, @02:12AM (1 child)
Now now, there there, I hope you feel better after pitching that little hissy fit against me - by proxy - for all the horrible people in the world that got together with the Russian hackers to get Trump elected.
Once you've calmed down and if you'd like to try reason over hysterics, I'll be happy to explain how people can disagree yet choose to live and let live without trying to hire/vote in someone else to lock up or murder anyone they don't like.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday September 18 2017, @03:35AM
That gambit only works on people who actually think and act like that, sorry. Try it with the dumb trust fund hippie in college whose mommy bought her a car and who never worked a day in her life. You just made yourself look even dumber by trying that on me.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 16 2017, @03:57PM
Of course part of the story was about Bradley-cum-Chelsea Manning's sex change. That is a blatant and public part of Manning's life, as evidenced by both the related wikipedia entry [wikipedia.org] and the photos in TFA. Attempts to stifle opposing views about an unspoken but obvious-at-a-glance on-topic part of the speaker's history is ludicrous, deceptive, and malicious. How would you react to an article which spoke about the future health and direction of the USA's government and society if you also noticed that the speaker in question was David Duke? Attempts to normalize behavior the vast majority of society finds objectional can and should expect negative responses, and if you react to those negative responses in any way other than by presenting a well-reasoned argument to address those negative responses, it is YOU who is the manipulative and/or irrational person.
Is it ethical to attempt to coerce a third party to participate in a deception? How many X and Y chromosomes do all of Bradley-cum-Chelsea's cells have? How do you expect rational people to respond if they know the value of 5 and you keep yammering on about "no, it is 4!" If you didn't answer "negatively", then you must understand that your viewpoint is abnormal.