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posted by martyb on Friday September 15 2017, @10:47AM   Printer-friendly
from the what-were-they-thinking? dept.

At least two Motel 6 locations in Phoenix, Arizona reported guest lists to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). It was also rumored that ICE paid out $200 for every undocumented immigrant caught. A PR director from Motel 6's parent company confirmed that staff members at the locations were working with ICE without the approval of senior management:

At least two Motel 6 locations in Arizona are reporting their guest lists to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers, which has resulted in at least 20 arrests, according to local media.

Phoenix New Times reported on Wednesday that two franchise locations of the motel chain are sending their guest lists to ICE agents "every morning," and possibly receiving $200 per undocumented immigrant caught in the sting.

"We send a report every morning to ICE — all the names of everybody that comes in," one front-desk clerk told the Times. "Every morning at about 5 o'clock, we do the audit and we push a button and it sends it to ICE."

Immigration attorney Denise Aguilar wrote The New Times in an email that some of her clients "have heard (no telling how valid the info is) that ICE is paying $200 per person for the front-desk clerk to report."

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2015 that law enforcement must obtain a warrant to search hotel/motel registries.

Also at The Washington Post, NY Mag, and Vice.

[Ed. Addition] A follow-on story at Phoenix New Times After New Times Story, Motel 6 Says It Will Stop Sharing Guest Lists With ICE raises many interesting questions about the situation, and then was itself updated:

Update, 3:25 p.m.: Motel 6 has issued another statement in response to our story on their practice of sharing guest lists with Immigrations and Customs Enforcement:

"Over the past several days, it was brought to our attention that certain local Motel 6 properties in the Phoenix-area were voluntarily providing daily guest lists to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). As previously stated, this was undertaken at the local level without the knowledge of senior management. When we became aware of it, it was discontinued.

Moving forward, to help ensure that this does not occur again, we will be issuing a directive to every one of our more than 1,400 locations nationwide, making clear that they are prohibited from voluntarily providing daily guest lists to ICE.

Additionally, to help ensure that our broader engagement with law enforcement is done in a manner that is respectful of our guests' rights, we will be undertaking a comprehensive review of our current practices and then issue updated, company-wide guidelines.

Protecting the privacy and security of our guests are core values of our company. Motel 6 apologizes for this incident and will continue to work to earn the trust and patronage of our millions of loyal guests."

Related: (Rhode Island) ACLU Statement On "Change" In Motel 6 Policy of Sharing Guest List (2015)


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by NotSanguine on Friday September 15 2017, @12:19PM (7 children)

    by NotSanguine (285) <{NotSanguine} {at} {SoylentNews.Org}> on Friday September 15 2017, @12:19PM (#568394) Homepage Journal

    The hotels are required by law to keep record of persons staying at the hotel

    Which particular law might this be? Your implication is that this a nationwide thing, so where in the US Code [cornell.edu] is this "law"? Do tell.

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  • (Score: 2) by Pino P on Friday September 15 2017, @06:21PM (3 children)

    by Pino P (4721) on Friday September 15 2017, @06:21PM (#568604) Journal

    I'm not aware of the details of hotel guest record retention laws. However, a nationwide requirement need not be in the U.S. Code or Code of Federal Regulations. It can be in the Model Penal Code, Uniform Vehicle Code, or any other model code on which the several states base their statutes and regulations. Or it can be in the requirements that insurers customarily impose on businesses.

    • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Saturday September 16 2017, @03:34AM (2 children)

      by NotSanguine (285) <{NotSanguine} {at} {SoylentNews.Org}> on Saturday September 16 2017, @03:34AM (#568818) Homepage Journal

      I'm not aware of the details of hotel guest record retention laws.

      Apparently AC claims to be aware of such details [soylentnews.org], although I suspect he/she is less knowledgeable about it than you are.

      However, a nationwide requirement need not be in the U.S. Code or Code of Federal Regulations. It can be in the Model Penal Code, Uniform Vehicle Code, or any other model code on which the several states base their statutes and regulations.

      A fair point. My reference to the US Code was a backhanded way of saying "Citation needed" as another AC did explicitly [soylentnews.org].

      Or it can be in the requirements that insurers customarily impose on businesses.

      But that's not the law. It's possible that insurers might include a re3quirement to maintain business records, including guest names in their policy T&Cs, but why would they care? As such, it seems unlikely. However, since I don't own a hotel, I have no direct knowledge one way or another.

      I think it more likely that hotels keep business records for a certain period of time so they can identify discrepancies and have documentation to respond to audits.

      Again, that's not "the law," nor is it a government mandate, as original AC claimed.

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      • (Score: 2) by Pino P on Monday September 18 2017, @02:44AM (1 child)

        by Pino P (4721) on Monday September 18 2017, @02:44AM (#569602) Journal

        Or it can be in the requirements that insurers customarily impose on businesses.

        But that's not the law.

        When a government requires a business to carry insurance, it in effect delegates lawmaking to the insurers, as breach of the policy terminates coverage and makes the business's continued operation a crime.

        • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Monday September 18 2017, @04:25AM

          by NotSanguine (285) <{NotSanguine} {at} {SoylentNews.Org}> on Monday September 18 2017, @04:25AM (#569624) Homepage Journal

          When a government requires a business to carry insurance, it in effect delegates lawmaking to the insurers, as breach of the policy terminates coverage and makes the business's continued operation a crime.

          That's a stretch. A pretty big one too. What's more, insurance (at least in the US) is regulated by the several states. As such, there's likely little uniformity with respect to insurance policy terms and conditions.

          Beyond that, requiring insurance coverage is likely an administrative regulation which has the force of law (but violations are almost certainly civil torts and not crimes), but the Ts & Cs of an insurance policy (whether or not purchasing such a policy is required by regulations) most certainly do not have the force of law.

          If you have any actual *evidence* to the contrary, I'd love to see it.

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by frojack on Friday September 15 2017, @07:24PM (2 children)

    by frojack (1554) on Friday September 15 2017, @07:24PM (#568643) Journal

    It's almost certainly a State Law and varies by state.

    Washington
    http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=19.48.020 [wa.gov]

    Alaska
    http://www.touchngo.com/lglcntr/akstats/Statutes/Title08/Chapter56/Section010.htm [touchngo.com]

    Mass
    https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section27 [malegislature.gov]

    Hotel/innkeeper laws were some of the first laws written in every state, existing in the colonies before the country was even formed.

    Its a true patchwork quilt. That body of law is so convoluted and disorganized in every state that there is a whole industry that consolidates and publishes law manuals for hotels [sandmansavrann.com] in almost every state.

    Most of these laws came about not only to prevent defrauding innkeepers but also simple next of kin notifications after fires and such. And yes also for tracking down criminals. There have been a lot of court decisions limiting inspection of guest registries over the last 10 years, but no state has repealed its requirement that they be kept.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 16 2017, @12:00AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 16 2017, @12:00AM (#568755)

      I'm reminded time and time again that the US is truly the land of the free and the home of the brave. At least until someone suspects a criminal or terrorist may make use of some right; in which case, that right is forfeit.

    • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Saturday September 16 2017, @03:37AM

      by NotSanguine (285) <{NotSanguine} {at} {SoylentNews.Org}> on Saturday September 16 2017, @03:37AM (#568819) Homepage Journal

      It's almost certainly a State Law and varies by state.

      Washington
      http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=19.48.020 [wa.gov] [wa.gov]

      Alaska
      http://www.touchngo.com/lglcntr/akstats/Statutes/Title08/Chapter56/Section010.htm [touchngo.com] [touchngo.com]

      Mass
      https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartI/TitleXX/Chapter140/Section27 [malegislature.gov] [malegislature.gov]

      Hotel/innkeeper laws were some of the first laws written in every state, existing in the colonies before the country was even formed.

      Its a true patchwork quilt. That body of law is so convoluted and disorganized in every state that there is a whole industry that consolidates and publishes law manuals for hotels [sandmansavrann.com] in almost every state.

      Most of these laws came about not only to prevent defrauding innkeepers but also simple next of kin notifications after fires and such. And yes also for tracking down criminals. There have been a lot of court decisions limiting inspection of guest registries over the last 10 years, but no state has repealed its requirement that they be kept.

      Thanks for sharing these links and clarifying that original AC was talking out of his ass [soylentnews.org].

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