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posted by martyb on Sunday September 17 2017, @02:54AM   Printer-friendly
from the Happy-Birthday-to-You! dept.

September 15th was the 30th anniversary of the anniversary of X11

The X11 window system turns 30 years old today! X11 which still lives on through today via the X.Org Server on Linux, BSD, Solaris, and other operating systems is now three decades old.

It was on this day in 1987 that Ralph Swick of MIT announced the X Window System Version 11 Release 1. As explained in the announcement compared to earlier versions of X, X11 offered "This release represents a major redesign and enhancement of X and signals it's graduation from the research community into the product engineering and development community. The X Window System version 11 is intended to be able to support virtually all known instances of raster display hardware and reasonable future hardware, including hardware supporting deep frame buffers, multiple colormaps and various levels of hardware graphics assist."

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=X11-Turns-30

[As a point of reference, Intel introduced the 80386 in 1985 and the 80386SX variant in 1988. --Ed.]


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  • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Sunday September 17 2017, @12:35PM (2 children)

    by maxwell demon (1608) on Sunday September 17 2017, @12:35PM (#569374) Journal

    No, if you look at the diagram you see that it is still an X server that those X clients connect to. It's just that the X server itself runs on top of Wayland.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 18 2017, @08:15AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 18 2017, @08:15AM (#569667)

    I don't understand why you wrote "no." To handle requests from X clients, one must by definition have an X server. Perhaps if the X server were integrated into Wayland in a monolithic fashion, you'd say "yes." As a practical matter for users, I'm not seeing that the choice of running Wayland implies a loss of functionality.

    • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Monday September 18 2017, @08:43AM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Monday September 18 2017, @08:43AM (#569670) Journal

      Wayland implies loss of functionality because as soon as programs are changed from X clients to Wayland clients, you lose the ability to open them remotely (except for crutches like VNC), and that both on computers running Wayland and on computers running X.

      Also with some applications talking directly to Wayland while others talking to the X server, interoperability will suffer.

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