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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday September 20 2017, @03:39PM   Printer-friendly
from the always-read-the-fine-print dept.

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Uber is fighting a proposed class-action lawsuit that says it secretly over charges riders and under pays drivers. In its defense, the ride-hailing service claims that nobody is being defrauded in its "upfront" rider fare pricing model.

The fares charged to riders don't have to match up with the fares paid to drivers, Uber said, because that's what a driver's "agreement" allows.

"Plaintiff's allegations are premised on the notion that, once Uber implemented Upfront Pricing for riders, it was required under the terms of the Agreement to change how the Fare was calculated for Drivers," Uber said (PDF) in a recent court filing seeking to have the class-action tossed. "This conclusion rests on a misinterpretation of the Agreement."

The suit claims that, when a rider uses Uber's app to hail a ride, the fare the app immediately shows the passenger is based on a slower and longer route compared to the one displayed to the driver. The rider pays the higher fee, and the driver's commission is paid from the cheaper, faster route, according to the lawsuit.

Uber claims the disparity between rider and driver fares "was hardly a secret."

"Drivers," Uber told a federal judge, "could have simply asked a User how much he or she paid for the trip to learn of any discrepancy."

Source: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/09/uber-driver-pay-plan-puts-a-significant-risk-on-ride-hailing-service/


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  • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday September 20 2017, @05:04PM (7 children)

    by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Wednesday September 20 2017, @05:04PM (#570713) Homepage
    > Middlemen serve a purpose, however good or bad a job they do at it.

    Nope, you need to see /Office Space/ again. Specifically the "I'm a people person" scene.
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  • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by frojack on Wednesday September 20 2017, @05:42PM (2 children)

    by frojack (1554) on Wednesday September 20 2017, @05:42PM (#570736) Journal

    you need to see /Office Space//quote.

    Yeah.

    No. We don't have to base real life on movies. Time to get out of your basement. Your mom want's to sell the house.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 20 2017, @05:54PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 20 2017, @05:54PM (#570743)

      You seem not to understand the function of parody.

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday September 20 2017, @06:39PM

      by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Wednesday September 20 2017, @06:39PM (#570769) Homepage
      Awww, how cute, the frojack attempts insults. Unfortunetely, it dribbles all over itself while so doing.

      Nothing I previously posted can, by anyone with a brain, be interpreted as saying we should base real life on movies. I'm concluding therefore, from this and other posts you make, that your brain coefficient is severely, perhaps terminally, lacking.

      Anyway, must rush, the sauna in my downtown penthouse apartment (and I say "my", as I own it outright unburdoned with any debt) has just reached a good temperature for some steam. You're not invited, I fear you'd bring a stench.
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  • (Score: 2) by edIII on Wednesday September 20 2017, @07:39PM (3 children)

    by edIII (791) on Wednesday September 20 2017, @07:39PM (#570823)

    You need to watch the IT Crowd again. Specifically the first episode, and the scene where the IT worker gets the shit beaten out him till the "people person" intervenes.

    Sometimes it is a good thing to have a person capable of speaking with normal people, being understood, and not causing the pitchforks and torches to come out :)

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    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday September 20 2017, @09:37PM (2 children)

      by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Wednesday September 20 2017, @09:37PM (#570858) Homepage
      Indeed it is often useful to have a middle layer as a buffer to protect both sides of the interface, particularly in cases where you need impedence matching. But I'm curious what gave you the opinion that I thought otherwise?

      GPP: "\forall x \in X, P(x) is true"
      Me: "\exists x_f \in X : P(x_f) is false" is a counter argument to that argument
      You: "\exists x_t \in X : P(x_t) is true" is neither a supporting argument for GPP, nor a counter to me.
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      • (Score: 2) by edIII on Friday September 22 2017, @02:08AM (1 child)

        by edIII (791) on Friday September 22 2017, @02:08AM (#571525)

        > Middlemen serve a purpose, however good or bad a job they do at it.

        Nope, you need to see /Office Space/ again. Specifically the "I'm a people person" scene.
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        That's why I thought you thought otherwise and responded with my own movie/tv scene...

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        • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday September 22 2017, @08:28AM

          by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Friday September 22 2017, @08:28AM (#571591) Homepage
          You're suffering from a logic fail.

          "X satisfy predicate Y" means *all* X satisfy predicate Y. One X that doesn't satisfy predicate Y is a counter-example, and all that's needed to disprove the initial statement. In this case, predicate Y was serving a purpose, and I identified a middleman that didn't serve a purpose.
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