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posted by CoolHand on Thursday September 21 2017, @05:46PM   Printer-friendly
from the driving-all-day dept.

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Think it was impressive when a Tesla club drove a Model S nearly 670 miles? It has nothing on what Proterra just managed. The startup just drove a Catalyst E2 Max electric bus a whopping 1,101.2 miles on a single charge. That's the furthest any EV has managed before recharging, and well past the 1,013.8 miles driven by the previous record-holder, a one-seat experimental car nicknamed "Boozer." It's not hard to see how Proterra managed the feat when you know about the technology, but this still bodes well for eco-friendly public transportation.

Source: https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/19/electric-bus-travels-record-1101-miles-on-one-charge/


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  • (Score: 2) by frojack on Thursday September 21 2017, @09:04PM (3 children)

    by frojack (1554) on Thursday September 21 2017, @09:04PM (#571403) Journal

    EV had a rightful place in households of individual drivers a long time ago.

    NO, EVs never made a great deal of sense until an acceptable battery technology came along.

    YES there were very early battery cars using lead-acid, but NO, their range and reliability was NOT sufficient, and
    battery management was a constant head ache, battery acid is dangerous, disposal or recycle was haphazard to non-existent.

    Lithium-ion batteries, in their current form are just barely sufficient, have significant safety issues and even more
    significant recycling issues. But Lithium is light years ahead of those older technologies

    And the weekly announcements in the lithium (and others) tech field mean it will be much safer and
    way more energy dense in the future.

    You can't just stand up and claim EV coulda been a contender, we Coulda Had it all Along. Its not that simple.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 21 2017, @09:55PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday September 21 2017, @09:55PM (#571428)

    Actually it is, but people would have had to take different strategies to transportation. Personal cars for nearby, promote massive deployment of rail, y'know all the things that politicians hate trying to fund.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by requerdanos on Thursday September 21 2017, @10:33PM (1 child)

    by requerdanos (5997) Subscriber Badge on Thursday September 21 2017, @10:33PM (#571444) Journal

    NO, their range and reliability was NOT sufficient, and battery management was a constant head ache, battery acid is dangerous, disposal or recycle was haphazard to non-existent.

    Generally sufficient, no.

    But they have, and have had, a place, for many.

    I commute less than two miles round trip for work or shopping, less than five for medical appointments. I am certainly not alone in having such meager needs in the range department for a vehicle used for local stuff. I could practically do that with NiCd AA batteries; I have done it in the past with a moped to keep from rolling the car; lead-acid marine deep-cycle batteries would certainly be up to the task in comfort and style.

    Plus, auto parts stores in my area recycle lead-acid batteries and have for a long time; handy thing to have but of course not universal. Sure, battery/battery acid management can be a headache, but my point and GP's is that there's a place for short-range low-tech EVs and has been for a long time.

    EV couldn't-a been a contender; short range is a killer if any of your trips need short+1. But we could-a had it all along, and would be further along in EV technology for the having had.

    • (Score: 2) by deimtee on Friday September 22 2017, @03:12AM

      by deimtee (3272) on Friday September 22 2017, @03:12AM (#571540) Journal

      Similar situation here, but one thing that stops me is registration/TAC charges. Fixed charge of $880 per car per year. (TAC is compulsory third-party injury insurance)
      If I drive one car 10000 km a year, I pay $880. If I drive 2 cars 5000km each, I pay $1720. Add in depreciation and the extra petrol from using the bigger car on short trips does not come anywhere near the cost of running a second vehicle.
      We need a switchable option. I only drive one at a time, so what I need is a system that says, ok you can have only one of these cars on the road at a time, and move the plates to the one you're using.

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