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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday September 26 2017, @10:54AM   Printer-friendly

http://www.pressherald.com/2017/09/24/ohio-bill-would-bar-abortion-when-prenatal-test-is-positive-for-down-syndrome/

an Ohio bill [would] ban abortions in cases where a pregnant woman has had a positive test result or prenatal diagnosis indicating Down syndrome. Physicians convicted of performing an abortion under such circumstances could be charged with a fourth-degree felony, stripped of their medical license and held liable for legal damages. The pregnant woman would face no criminal liability.

Several other states have considered similar measures, triggering emotional debate over women's rights, parental love, and the trust between doctor and patient.

The Ohio bill's chief Senate sponsor, Republican Sen. Frank LaRose, said Republican lawmakers accelerated the measure after hearing a mid-August CBS News report on Iceland's high rate of abortions in cases involving Down syndrome. The report asserted Iceland had come close to "eradicating" such births.

[...] Doctors and medical students are fighting the measure.

Parvaneh Nouri, a third-year medical student at Wright State University, told lawmakers it would do little to stop abortions but could stop information-sharing between patients and their doctors.

“It destroys the trust of our patients, for which we have worked tirelessly over generations of physicians to cultivate,” she said.

Indiana's version of the law has been blocked by a federal judge while North Dakota's law has gone unchallenged due to the state's only abortion clinic not performing abortions after 16 weeks. An Oklahoma bill that would prohibit abortions based on any genetic abnormalities did not reach the state Senate.

Previously: Down Syndrome Births Nearly Eliminated in Iceland


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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by kurenai.tsubasa on Tuesday September 26 2017, @05:22PM (3 children)

    by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Tuesday September 26 2017, @05:22PM (#573271) Journal

    Christians? Not only no, but HELL NO!!

    Hmm?

    The Abram/Abraham legend is the basis of ritual infant genital mutilation in Christianity. Christian Identity, for example, claims that Caucasians are the lost tribe of Israel, direct descendants of Abraham, and the 144,000 some odd elect in Revelation.

    I went to the usual sources, but then I realized this [conservapedia.com] might be a better summary. Even includes the claim “Arab Muslims trace their lineage back to Abraham (known as Ibrahim) through his son Ishmael.”

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  • (Score: 1) by Type44Q on Tuesday September 26 2017, @08:25PM (1 child)

    by Type44Q (4347) on Tuesday September 26 2017, @08:25PM (#573473)

    ...is the basis of ritual infant genital mutilation in Christianity

    That's a Jewish practice, not Christian.

    • (Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Tuesday September 26 2017, @09:45PM

      by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Tuesday September 26 2017, @09:45PM (#573528) Journal

      Ah, my bad. I tried searching, but Luke 2:21 didn't help. So I checked Matthew 5 and found something along those lines in verses 17–20 MSG. Jesus is addressing “those who were apprenticed to him” after climbing a hillside to find somewhere quiet away from the crowds his ministry was drawing:

      “Don’t suppose for a minute that I have come to demolish the Scriptures—either God’s Law or the Prophets. I’m not here to demolish but to complete. I am going to put it all together, pull it all together in a vast panorama. God’s Law is more real and lasting than the stars in the sky and the ground at your feet. Long after stars burn out and earth wears out, God’s Law will be alive and working.

      “Trivialize even the smallest item in God’s Law and you will only have trivialized yourself. But take it seriously, show the way for others, and you will find honor in the kingdom. Unless you do far better than the Pharisees in the matters of right living, you won’t know the first thing about entering the kingdom.”

      My lack of familiarity with the source material must be leading me astray. Where may I find the part that says that Christians have been deluded about male circumcision and its necessity as part of Yahweh's covenant with Abraham for about the past century or two?

  • (Score: 2) by dry on Wednesday September 27 2017, @01:03AM

    by dry (223) on Wednesday September 27 2017, @01:03AM (#573593) Journal

    “Arab Muslims trace their lineage back to Abraham (known as Ibrahim) through his son Ishmael.”

    My understanding is that it was another case of the all loving Father God playing favourites between two brothers, again. The Jews descended from the favoured brother and the Arabs from the unfavoured brother.
    Got to love Gods morals.