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an Ohio bill [would] ban abortions in cases where a pregnant woman has had a positive test result or prenatal diagnosis indicating Down syndrome. Physicians convicted of performing an abortion under such circumstances could be charged with a fourth-degree felony, stripped of their medical license and held liable for legal damages. The pregnant woman would face no criminal liability.
Several other states have considered similar measures, triggering emotional debate over women's rights, parental love, and the trust between doctor and patient.
The Ohio bill's chief Senate sponsor, Republican Sen. Frank LaRose, said Republican lawmakers accelerated the measure after hearing a mid-August CBS News report on Iceland's high rate of abortions in cases involving Down syndrome. The report asserted Iceland had come close to "eradicating" such births.
[...] Doctors and medical students are fighting the measure.
Parvaneh Nouri, a third-year medical student at Wright State University, told lawmakers it would do little to stop abortions but could stop information-sharing between patients and their doctors.
“It destroys the trust of our patients, for which we have worked tirelessly over generations of physicians to cultivate,” she said.
Indiana's version of the law has been blocked by a federal judge while North Dakota's law has gone unchallenged due to the state's only abortion clinic not performing abortions after 16 weeks. An Oklahoma bill that would prohibit abortions based on any genetic abnormalities did not reach the state Senate.
Previously: Down Syndrome Births Nearly Eliminated in Iceland
(Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Tuesday September 26 2017, @07:09PM (5 children)
I don't subscribe to any of those demonstrably false belief systems. However, IIUC Muslims claim to worship the god of Abraham [wikipedia.org]. In my book, that means they're all the same.
You can hem and haw about it all you want, but all the morons (and if you're a believer, I include you in that too) who call themselves Muslim, Christian or Jew worship the same imaginary, invisible sky-daddy.
In my mind, they're all full of shit. And full of the same shit too. And the fact that these guys (well, not the Jews, they're forbidden from proselytizing or, except in rare cases, converting others, but they have the same arrogant, self-absorbed prejudices too) have spent centuries fighting, killing and trying to convince others that their way is the right way, the only way, just shows how deluded and ridiculous they are.
So, any way you slice it, These guys come from a tradition of murder, intolerance and the arrogant belief that their trained-in prejudices are the laws of nature, whether they're Muslim, Christian or Jew. So go ahead and split rhetorical hairs, maybe you can go out and torture and kill some non-believers if you get bored.
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 2) by dry on Wednesday September 27 2017, @01:07AM (4 children)
Muslims also worship Jesus, considering him the second greatest prophet.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday September 27 2017, @01:14PM (3 children)
For certain values of "worship".
For informational purposes: Muslims deny that Jesus is God, and that Jesus ever died, thus denying Jesus' resurrection. Consequently Christians cannot accept the faith of Islam. The Bible declares that Jesus is the one and only way to God, and there is no other way. So thus there is an incompatibility between Christianity and all other religions. Except for 'forms' of Christianity that deny the Bible. Manifestation is generally persecution vs compromise, health and wealth, etc.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 2) by dry on Wednesday September 27 2017, @02:49PM (2 children)
At one point there was various Christian sects that didn't believe Christ was God either, just that they mostly got wiped out in the first millennium.
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Wednesday September 27 2017, @08:27PM (1 child)
Interesting. I hadn't heard of that.
The lower I set my standards the more accomplishments I have.
(Score: 2) by dry on Thursday September 28 2017, @02:29AM
The Ebionites come to mind, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebionism [wikipedia.org] there were also various sects that, while believing Christ was divine, didn't believe in the trinity or that Christ was always a God. Arianism was a big one, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism [wikipedia.org] and some who believed Christ was adopted by God, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adoptionism [wikipedia.org] And of course, today there are the various Unitarian sects https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarianism [wikipedia.org] that believe that
For completeness, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam [wikipedia.org] which is an interesting read.