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Surgery to embed a nerve-stimulating implant in a patient in a persistent vegetative state (15 years), resulted in the patient reverting to a "minimally conscious" state.
After lying in a vegetative state for 15 years, a 35-year-old male patient in France appears to have regained minimal consciousness following months of vagus nerve stimulation, researchers report today in Current Biology.
The patient, who suffered severe brain damage in a car crash, had shown no signs of awareness or improvement before. He made no apparent purposeful movements and didn't respond to doctors or family at his bedside. But after researchers surgically implanted a device that stimulates the vagus nerve, quiet areas of his brain began to perk up—as did he.
His eyes turned toward people talking and could follow a moving mirror. He turned his head to follow a speaker moving around his bed. He slowly shook his head when asked. When researchers suddenly drew very close to his face, his eyes widened as if he was surprised or scared. When caregivers played his favorite music, he smiled and shed a tear.
Note that "respond" is on the level of "turning his head when asked, though that took a minute."
A few thoughts on this:
- Medical advances are COOL!
- Hopefully, this advance can help some folks.
- This makes ethical questions concerning patients in persistent vegetative states more urgent:
- (e.g. the question of whether/when to pull the plug has become even more confusing)
- This introduces some new ethical questions:
- Is it ethical to "bring back" someone after 15 years? (the world has changed quite significantly)
- Is it ethical to "bring back" someone to a state where they're might just barely be conscious enough to realise how much their state sucks?
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 26 2017, @02:21PM (17 children)
Is anyone else getting all kinds of TLS cert errors when trying to access Slashdot?! It looks like their site is using a cert that expired January 30, 2017?!
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?!
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 26 2017, @02:25PM (6 children)
what is this slashpoop you're talking about?
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 26 2017, @02:31PM (5 children)
Slashdot [slashdot.org] is a website that has many of the same stories as this site, except they publish these stories a day or two earlier than they're published here.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 26 2017, @02:37PM (1 child)
LOL! That "-1, Troll" mod is really a "-1, Painful Truth" mod!
(Score: 3, Funny) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday September 26 2017, @05:40PM
LOL! That "-1, Troll" mod is really a "-1, Painful Truth" mod!
True. However, once you read the comments there your brain requires that nerve implant to regain minimal consciousness.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Tuesday September 26 2017, @03:29PM (1 child)
We can and have beat Slashdot to stories. It just doesn't happen often since we get less submissions and space them out longer (typically 90 minutes instead of 45 minutes)
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 27 2017, @12:18AM
I like that our stories are later as we sometimes have better details by then.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by edIII on Tuesday September 26 2017, @10:32PM
The timing is meaningless to me, and is a barb thrown that makes no sense. The state of journalism today?
All of the above being run by executive shitheads that treat us like an audience, while peddling us to their real customers, Big Ad. For me, all that exists is SoylentNews. Sometimes I fire up Tails and try to view other sites, but they're all broke as a mother fucker. You can view The Verge somewhat, and the Huffington Post actually gets top marks for displaying articles well without JS. CNN is a pile of shit, and most local news outlets render horribly through any kind of proxy that removes javascript as well as other bullshit. The user experience is extremely poor on those sites.
Whereas this site is:
I wonder why I keep coming back.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 3, Informative) by bradley13 on Tuesday September 26 2017, @02:32PM (9 children)
The green site was completely down for a while. Now cert errors. At a guess, they've had a major server issue, and are trying to bring things back up, piecemeal, from backups.
Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 26 2017, @02:53PM (7 children)
If I go to https://sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net] with JavaScript disabled I get this message:
WHAT IN THE FUCK IS GOING ON OVER THERE?!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 26 2017, @03:05PM (6 children)
Oh no! Not a Sourceforge outage! Are Michael David Crawford's projects OK?
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 26 2017, @03:19PM (5 children)
You joke about this, but the reality is that this could literally mean the end of Free/Libre Open Source Software as we know it.
According to SourceForge's About page [archive.org]:
So this isn't just any site we're talking about. SourceForge is, for all intents and purposes, the foundation of the Free/Libre Open Source Software movement.
It's clear that this disruption is causing problems for some users [twitter.com]. Look at what well-known Free/Libre Open Source Software community member @MoZ_Rush [twitter.com] had to say: "we neeed it back pls"
Without SourceForge, Free/Libre Open Source Software effectively doesn't exist.
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 26 2017, @03:28PM (4 children)
Have you been in a vegetative state for 15 years? Sourceforge is a graveyard of dead projects. GitHub is the entire open source community, every open source project is on GitHub, every open source coder is on GitHub.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 26 2017, @03:43PM (3 children)
I think there are far more dead projects on GitHub than there are on SourceForge. GitHub is riddled with incomplete JavaScript libraries. There's also a lot of Rust code there that has been abandoned because the Rust language took forever to become stable, so code written one day wouldn't even compile the next day without massive changes.
(Score: 4, Informative) by JNCF on Tuesday September 26 2017, @05:04PM (2 children)
For a while, SourceForge was adding closed source adware to projects that left their platform (including GIMP) without approval from the authors or any warning to end-users. They've theoretically stopped, but only after losing all credibility. Not that github should be unconditionally trusted, just that SourceForge is known to be a malicious actor.
(Score: 2) by darnkitten on Tuesday September 26 2017, @09:19PM (1 child)
Has anyone reputable certified Sourceforge as clean recently?
There are several programs from Sourceforge I've kept in a pre-adware state, due to their usefulness. Some of them have updates exclusively available on the site, but while I've heard, like you said, that they've "theoretically stopped" bundling crapware, I haven't heard anyone authoritative say that they are safe.
(Score: 2) by JNCF on Wednesday September 27 2017, @09:25PM
Not that I know of (haven't checked), but I can't imagine anything that would make me give them an iota of trust anytime soon. Even if somebody demonstrated that everything they distribute exactly matches what the authors intended to publish, my question would be for how long? This sort of self-inflicted reputational damage, not through incompetence but through maliciousness driven by profit motive, should take decades to recover from. Really, SourceForge should just die in a fire. There are multiple alternatives.
I had a similar conundrum a while back, and ended up installing their shit on a box used for nothing else.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by frojack on Tuesday September 26 2017, @05:19PM
You mean they have been in a "minimally conscious" state???
Maybe the sysops will decide to revert to a persistent vegetative state as a safety measure.
Another 15 years ought to be about right.
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