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CBS premiered its new Star Trek series "Discovery" on Sunday. The first episode was made available on OTA (over-the-air) CBS stations — but it and all subsequent episodes are available strictly on CBS's All Access streaming service. Cost is $6/month with ads, $10/month ad-free. (NOTE: The second episode was made available immediately after episode 1 aired. Episodes 3-7 will be released weekly, there will be a break, and then the remaining episodes will again be released weekly early in 2018.)
Ars Technica has a review that mostly praised the new show. (There were at least two technical inaccuracies in the review concerning the first episode.)
For those who may not yet have seen it, I kindly ask folks who comment on this story to make liberal use of the <spoiler>don't show this unless they click here</spoiler> tags.
What did you think? Was it entertaining? Did it hold closely [enough] to existing Star Trek canon? Was any 'ideology' change you saw sufficiently warranted?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 26 2017, @05:39PM (13 children)
So how did that Wezlee fellow end up in Star Fleet? How did Kneelix end up in Star Fleet? Are you saying they achieved their Star Fleet ranks based on merit?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 26 2017, @05:52PM (7 children)
With Netflix, I've been able to watch these series one-show-after-the-other in a single sitting, plowing through entire series. I recall seeing these characters work their way up, and thereby become respected members of the team. Neelix was a non-Starfleet member.
In the case of Wesley, he was ultimately treated as a very gifted individual; it's not surprising that his path was different from "normal" people.
With Neelix, he did indeed face a lot of prejudice, and had to prove himself by arduously learning things on his own, and taking on tasks that people didn't want to do.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 26 2017, @05:58PM (6 children)
Wrong! WRONG! WRONG!
"Captain Janeway bestows on Neelix the title of Official Starfleet Ambassador to the Delta Quadrant." [wikipedia.org]
He holds a higher rank than most of the crew on the Voyager ship. Starfleet Ambassadors reportedly have a rank that's considered equivalent to that of captains, and they can be ranked higher than captains at the discretion of the admiralty.
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Tuesday September 26 2017, @06:01PM (5 children)
Holy selective quoting, Batman!
So he was given an honorary position RIGHT BEFORE he left.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 26 2017, @06:06PM (4 children)
Goddamn it, it's not an "honorary position"! Neelix is the Official Starfleet Ambassador to the Delta Quadrant! Show him some respect, damn it!
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Tuesday September 26 2017, @06:10PM (3 children)
Considering the nearest Starfleet presence to him is a couple decades away at warp speed, I might as well declare myself King of Proxima Centauri, for all the good it'll do.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 26 2017, @06:16PM (2 children)
What part of Official Starfleet Ambassador to the Delta Quadrant do you not understand?
(Score: 2, Touché) by tangomargarine on Tuesday September 26 2017, @06:42PM
How it means anything
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 26 2017, @07:00PM
*sigh*
And what right does a Captain have to make an ambassador.
(Score: 3, Informative) by tangomargarine on Tuesday September 26 2017, @05:59PM (4 children)
Neelix was a special case, as they were stuck in the middle of nowhere and needed a guide. Also I don't think he was ever officially part of Starfleet, either. He was a cook, counselor, and ambassador of sorts.
Tom Paris was given a field commission in that show, too, and it sounded pretty doubtful he would've been given that second chance normally, as he was a felon.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 2) by dry on Wednesday September 27 2017, @03:57AM (3 children)
Do you really think that they'll have feudal things like felons? Even in the 21st (and at least a good chunk of the 20th) only 2 countries still have felons.
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday September 27 2017, @02:20PM (2 children)
What? I'm confused what you're talking about.
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Punishment/Maximum-length-of-sentence [nationmaster.com]
From that link it looks like only about a bazillion countries have prison sentences longer than a year for *some* crime.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 2) by dry on Saturday September 30 2017, @02:56AM (1 child)
Sorry for not replying sooner.
I'm thinking more of the legal definition, basically a class of people who have their rights permanently, or close enough, curtailed. Not its use in culture, which is mostly American culture where it is used.
eg, being a felon in America means,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony [wikipedia.org]
In most of the free world, serving your sentence means that you are once again a regular citizen and most of those rights have to be removed by a Judge as part of sentencing rather then as a letter of attainment passed by the legislature. Here, restrictions on firearms, only happens if a Judge says, usually due to being stupid with a firearm. Put on a sex list, only if a Judge considers the crime deserving of it. Most of those others seem barbaric though deportation is pretty usual for non-citizens.
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Monday October 02 2017, @02:56PM
Aha. Okay that makes more sense.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"