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The Brazilian government backed off a controversial proposal to authorize private companies to mine a sprawling Amazon reserve Monday after blistering domestic and international criticism.
President Michel Temer's office will issue a new decree Tuesday that "restores the conditions of the area, according to the document that instituted the reserve in 1984," the Ministry of Mines and Energy said in a statement.
Last week, environmental activist group Greenpeace said at least 14 illegal mines and eight clandestine landing strips were already being used by miners in the Denmark-sized reserve known as Renca in the eastern Amazon.
Greenpeace said this showed the risks faced by Renca even without Temer's earlier proposal for ending a ban on large-scale foreign mining in the mineral-rich region.
Temer's decree signed on August 25 on opening up Renca—rich in gold, manganese, iron and copper—was suspended days later after an international outcry.
Mining condoned by the government will not happen, but illegal mining will continue?
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 27 2017, @01:59PM (34 children)
There was some sort of massive disruption yesterday that affected both Slashdot [twitter.com] and SourceForge [twitter.com]. The problems must have been fixed at some point, because at least Slashdot was working again as of about an hour ago. But since then both Slashdot and SourceForge appear to have gone offline again! Slashdot just came back online, but now the top story being displayed is from yesterday! It's like the subsequent stories since yesterday's outage were resolved are no longer showing! I think that something fucked is happening at Slashdot and SourceForge! Does anyone know what the hell is going on?
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 27 2017, @02:02PM
OH FUCK! If I load SourceForge with JavaScript disabled, I get this message:
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 27 2017, @02:21PM
https://twitter.com/sfnet_ops/status/913044025791467520 [twitter.com]
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 27 2017, @02:31PM (13 children)
To be honest, these Slashdot and SourceForge outages are a lot more relevant and interesting and on-topic than this nonsense about Brazil.
The submission from yesterday about these problems [soylentnews.org] should be put on the front page immediately.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 27 2017, @03:01PM
Perhaps. I'm wondering if those sites are in their death throes. I've been having problems on and off with the old site. For a while the stylesheet wasn't loading when I went to view
commentspartisan screeching. Seems there are still somehow quite a few people there.Best just to take those sites out back and put them out of their suffering.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday September 27 2017, @04:24PM (11 children)
Disagree. Doing so it's a useless CO2 emission.
Luckily, the Brazilian's decision will allow a good chunk of the Amazon jungle to continue scrubbing that CO2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 27 2017, @04:41PM (10 children)
You people are fucking naive about Brazil. All of the evidence suggests it's a corrupt, rotten place. For all we know they'll wait a week until the lefty sorts forget all about Brazil, and then they'll resume whatever the fuck it is that they're doing (I don't care enough to actually read the summary to find out).
The important issue is that Slashdot and SourceForge are suffering some significant disruptions that are affecting the usability of their sites. The disruptions at Slashdot and SourceForge are much more relevant topics to discuss here.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday September 27 2017, @04:59PM (6 children)
During that week, and perhaps longer, those trees will continue to scrub CO2, no matter how much shit your rabid fingers spew on S/N site.
The fact that Slashdot is in the death throws anyone sane can see as a direct consequence of the stupidity of its masters... is that important?
Do enlighten us about the grounds of this importance; as it stands now I could not care less, but, what do I know?, maybe I'm wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 27 2017, @05:03PM (5 children)
Dude, they're probably going to cut down your beloved trees next week, instead of today. That's the point you're continually missing.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday September 27 2017, @05:12PM (3 children)
And thus discussing about a shitty site I don't care (and the death of which will not affect me in any way) becomes more relevant... exactly how?!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 27 2017, @06:45PM (2 children)
If slashdot is dying, what's that say about SN? /. Gets more traffic and comments on a day that it's down than SN gets on a good day.
But keep repeating the meme slashdot is dying. Has netcraft confirmed it?
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday September 27 2017, @07:00PM
And traffic at the site level (+followers, friends, likes and retweets at the personal level) is the sole metric that matter for success, right? That's... how's it called?... "reputation economy"**, isn't it?
Wasting time in a pleasant way - who gives a dam' about.
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** (toldja to mind those Illuminati, di'n't I?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday September 28 2017, @02:38AM
Yes but i enjoy these marvelous bastards on soylent. I do not enjoy who or what you are; you're dull.
Soylent comprises bright, warped minds of all kinds, so it's not exactly like there's any kind of consensus or groupthink at work. But dullards and nincompoops are not welcome. Step it up with something meaningful or intelligent to say, or return to your bitter wastes.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday September 28 2017, @06:21AM
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday September 27 2017, @07:32PM (2 children)
Oh my goodness. Submit the slashdot story already. I'm sure it will be published and then you can chew your fingernails to the nub there and be on-topic. it's rather a dick move to do this. Ok, you're not interested in the amazon rain forest. Fine. But don't hijack the thread for something else.
I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish anyway. Are we supposed to be upset that slashdot is having trouble? Are we supposed to feel bad that we left, or something? Honestly, i don't care what slashdot does or does not do, and i was a vocal booster of that community back in the day. They sent us Soylentils the firm and clear message that they didn't give a fuck what their community thought, so we left. I hope they fix their technical issues. I hope they return to the ethos that made them solid back in the day. But the hyperventilating about it strikes me as weird.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday September 27 2017, @07:53PM (1 child)
I deleted that submission. Even an aristarchus submission is more newsworthy than some downtime over at /. The user(s) who want to talk about it appear to be refugees who need their trolling fix.
As for SourceForge, if you want to know more you can tweet at this guy [twitter.com]. If you bash BIZX, LLC enough, maybe he will swing by and correct the record [reddit.com].
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(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday September 28 2017, @02:26AM
That sucks. Eth is our troll.
I don't ever visit slashdot anymore. Is that the caliber of user they have left? I'll take soylent's motley crew any day.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by TheRaven on Wednesday September 27 2017, @03:08PM (4 children)
sudo mod me up
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 27 2017, @03:13PM (3 children)
It's not "hijacking". Nobody was commenting about this Brazil nonsense anyway, so this submission has been put to good use discussing something relevant.
Besides, there's been a submission about these outages queued up for many hours [soylentnews.org]. Until that gets on the front page, like it should have been yesterday, we'll have no choice but to discuss these Slashdot and SourceForge outages in other submissions.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 27 2017, @03:18PM (2 children)
I agree. While there is a desire not to acknowledge the existence of the green site, frankly it would be interesting for us to watch and comment on it if it is crumbling to its demise.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 27 2017, @03:26PM (1 child)
There should be a general breaking-news submission pinned to the top at all times, where stuff like this can be discussed. The first level of comments would be sorted by descending by default, so that the latest discussion appears at the top.
Maybe the submission/queue approach works well for bland stories, where a delay of 2 or 3 days doesn't matter, but when it comes to important breaking news we shouldn't have to wait for the editors to get their shit together. We should be able to discuss breaking news right away.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday September 27 2017, @07:41PM
That's actually not a terrible idea, but there is already a mechanism for talking about whatever crap you want: journals. You will have to log in though.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by edIII on Wednesday September 27 2017, @04:16PM (9 children)
Heh. I just find it very amusing to be on this site with Chicken Little screaming about the sky falling :)
1) Slashdot is for audiences, so don't really care
2) Sourceforge has been dead for years.
Can we get an article or something for this AC to post in? Otherwise we're going to hear them hyperventilate with offtopic comments till the sites comes back up for this person.
For the record, illegal mining in Brazil is worth discussion when they're massacring uncontacted tribes in the Amazon [news.com.au].
Of course the overall story is about mining because of money being more important than people, but the real story here are these criminals boasting of what amounts to genocide. People that don't what a camera is being terrified trying to defend themselves with sticks while an entire tribe, men, women, and children, killed with guns. Is the government of Brazil doing jack shit to stop them? Apparently not, and their president was about to get away with giving the corps (read: rich men) unfettered access to protected lands.
Yeah, all things considered, I don't give a fuck about Slashdot and Sourceforge.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 27 2017, @04:20PM (8 children)
A lot more people use Slashdot and SourceForge than use this site. Slashdot and SourceForge are more important topics than Brazil, too.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by edIII on Wednesday September 27 2017, @04:29PM (5 children)
Yet, Brazil has an actual fucking article about it. The one in which you might actually learn about mass murders, but yeah, some fucking website we don't give a shit about here, and an ancient decrepit source code site that shot itself in the foot is more important.
Those sites don't mean shit, and none of that is an excuse to continually hijack articles to talk about it. You want to talk about it? Find an article somewhere else where somebody gives a fuck about it, and then post it here, and then you can make your comments.
Till then, fuck off. The only thing you've done is help hijack another article with the weak ass excuse that "Brazil isn't as important".
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 27 2017, @04:34PM (4 children)
Bruce Perens [twitter.com], one of the founders of the open source software movement, has weighed in [twitter.com] on the Slashdot disruptions. That makes the Slashdot and SourceForge disruptions a much more important topic.
As for this Brazil nonsense, maybe you could try going down on one knee during the Brazilian national anthem? Isn't that how lefties like you "solve" problems these days?
(Score: 2) by edIII on Wednesday September 27 2017, @05:13PM (3 children)
"Lefties"? Dragging partisan politics into it? Is that the weak ass sauce your trolling skills has this morning?
Brazil is the conversation we are having. Don't like it, fuck off.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 27 2017, @05:21PM (2 children)
Do you know anything about Brazilian politics? Brazil, like nearly all South American countries, is politically very far to the left. One of the most interesting things about Brazilian politics, and politics in general, is the correlation between leftist politics and corruption.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 27 2017, @06:03PM
GOP
oh look at that, your argument fell to pieces with a single acronym!
(Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Wednesday September 27 2017, @08:54PM
Ha ha, yes leftists in power in South America.
It's not like the CIA overthrow them or anything, or [wikipedia.org]
Honduras [wikipedia.org]
Or plenty of others I'm sure. But no, the leftists are the problem.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday September 27 2017, @05:08PM (1 child)
Then fuck off to Slashdot, let us be a few and spare us of your pollution.
Once I left the green site because it didn't care for my needs, I don't fucking care how many of others still like the shit they are fed with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 3, Funny) by Gaaark on Wednesday September 27 2017, @08:52PM
"Then fuck off to Slashdot"
Okay I will!
Oh, wait. News from Tuesday?
What? Sites down?
Shit.
:)
Yeah, don't miss /. at all.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday September 27 2017, @04:55PM (2 children)
You did this derailing shit a year or two ago, didn't you?
Slashdot.org is back up, and you're not going to get a story about it.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday September 27 2017, @04:58PM (1 child)
Slashdot is not back up. Go try to post a comment there. Try to view all comments. Try to view earlier stories. The home page might load, but it's not fully working. It's disrupted. Go check SourceForge, too. It's also still disrupted.
You're doing a disservice to this community by not reporting on this important news.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday September 27 2017, @05:11PM
It's non-news. The opposite of news. A news void. Eventually they will fix whatever problems they are having, post a meta story or tweet, and you will know "what the hell is going on".
Or SlashdotMedia will actually die and then we'll have something to report on.
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