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posted by Fnord666 on Saturday September 30 2017, @12:18PM   Printer-friendly
from the ban-gas-instead-of-passing-it dept.

France and the United Kingdom are doing it. So is India. And now one lawmaker would like California to follow their lead in phasing out gasoline- and diesel-powered vehicles.

When the Legislature returns in January, Assemblyman Phil Ting plans to introduce a bill that would ban the sale of new cars fueled by internal-combustion engines after 2040. The San Francisco Democrat said it's essential to get California drivers into an electric fleet if the state is going to meet its greenhouse gas reduction targets, since the transportation sector accounts for more than a third of all emissions.

"The market is moving this way. The entire world is moving this way," Ting said. "At some point you need to set a goal and put a line in the sand."

California already committed five years ago to putting 1.5 million "zero-emission vehicles," such as electric cars and plug-in hybrids, on the road by 2025. By that time, the state wants these cleaner models to account for 15 percent of all new car sales.

Could the hills surrounding Los Angeles one day become visible?


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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by mhajicek on Saturday September 30 2017, @04:16PM (5 children)

    by mhajicek (51) on Saturday September 30 2017, @04:16PM (#575315)

    I've been seeing a fair number of Volts on the road here, and a couple Teslas. The trend is indeed in that direction.

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  • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 30 2017, @06:32PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 30 2017, @06:32PM (#575333)

    Have you considered in conjunction with your fair Volts and few Teslas the amount of subsidized funds extracted from taxpayers that affected the financial decisions of the people who bought said Volts and Teslas (not to mention the subsidies handed out to the manufacturers)?

    How do you see that trend being affected in the absence of such artificial subsidies?

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 30 2017, @07:38PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 30 2017, @07:38PM (#575354)

      Have you considered in conjunction with your fair ICE vehicles the amount of subsidized funds extracted from taxpayers that go to fossil fuel industry?

      Aside from the (already enormous) direct monetary subsidies, don't forget to include a large percentage of the military budget, as well the entirety of anti-terrorism related spending. You should also factor in the millions of lives lost or destroyed in the Middle East, countries plunged into civil wars, support of oppressive regimes, the erosion of our civil liberties enabled by the "threat" of terrorism, environmental destruction (oil spills, hundreds of earthquakes caused by fracking)...

      So, how do you see fossil fuel availability being affected in the absence of such artificial subsidies?

      • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Saturday September 30 2017, @10:25PM

        by maxwell demon (1608) on Saturday September 30 2017, @10:25PM (#575394) Journal

        And where does the electricity for the EVs come from?

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      • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 01 2017, @12:43AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 01 2017, @12:43AM (#575429)

        You raise very valid points. All subsidies need to be abolished immediately, along with the Nuclear Regulatory Committee. ICEV and EV can then fight it out in the marketplace when we have fail-safe nuclear molten salt reactors producing a wild surplus of zero-emission electric energy along with all the Fisher-Tropsch-produced gasoline, diesel, and other petrocarbons making use of the high industrial heat of MSRs and the waste product of domestic thorium mining: coal.

        Tear down all the illegal economic kickbacks.

  • (Score: 4, Touché) by slap on Saturday September 30 2017, @07:30PM

    by slap (5764) on Saturday September 30 2017, @07:30PM (#575353)

    I've seen more PT Cruisers than Bolts, Volts, or Teslas in my neighborhood. Must mean that PT Cruisers are coming back in a big way.