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posted by Fnord666 on Saturday September 30 2017, @12:18PM   Printer-friendly
from the ban-gas-instead-of-passing-it dept.

France and the United Kingdom are doing it. So is India. And now one lawmaker would like California to follow their lead in phasing out gasoline- and diesel-powered vehicles.

When the Legislature returns in January, Assemblyman Phil Ting plans to introduce a bill that would ban the sale of new cars fueled by internal-combustion engines after 2040. The San Francisco Democrat said it's essential to get California drivers into an electric fleet if the state is going to meet its greenhouse gas reduction targets, since the transportation sector accounts for more than a third of all emissions.

"The market is moving this way. The entire world is moving this way," Ting said. "At some point you need to set a goal and put a line in the sand."

California already committed five years ago to putting 1.5 million "zero-emission vehicles," such as electric cars and plug-in hybrids, on the road by 2025. By that time, the state wants these cleaner models to account for 15 percent of all new car sales.

Could the hills surrounding Los Angeles one day become visible?


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 30 2017, @06:53PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 30 2017, @06:53PM (#575342)

    And how many ICE vehicles do you observe during those same trips?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 30 2017, @07:44PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday September 30 2017, @07:44PM (#575356)

    Mass-market ICE vehicles had about a century of head start.

    How many smartphones have you seen around in the first two decades or so of their existence? And how about a year or two after iPhone was introduced?

    • (Score: 2) by Unixnut on Sunday October 01 2017, @01:40AM

      by Unixnut (5779) on Sunday October 01 2017, @01:40AM (#575442)

      > Mass-market ICE vehicles had about a century of head start.

      How so? The first cars were EVs, there was a time when both ICE and EV vehicles new tech, and were competing for market share.

      ICE won because it was better and more convenient than EVs. The poorer engine efficiency of the prime mover was dwarfed by cheap, easy to refill fuel, making the car have a longer range, and a faster fill up time.

      Over a hundred years of investment, both in battery and fuel/ICE tech, and the results haven't changed. Best answer would be a liquid fueled EV. An ethanol fuel celled EV would have the benefits of liquid fuel (fast refill, long range), with the benefits of EVs. Nothing beats liquid fuels for energy density, and batteries won't ever reach it.

      This battery EV just seems like a gimmick that just won't scale, and an overall bad idea.