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Over 50 dead in mass shooting in Las Vegas

posted by martyb on Monday October 02 2017, @04:18PM   Printer-friendly

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http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/02/554976369/section-of-las-vegas-strip-is-closed-after-music-festival-shooting

A gunman fired upon thousands of people attending a music festival on the Las Vegas Strip Sunday night, in a brutal attack that is blamed for at least 58 deaths, police say. In the mass shooting and panic that ensued, 515 people were injured. At least one of the dead is an off-duty police officer who was attending the concert.

Editorializing: Interesting how media always emphasize ISLAMIC terrorists, but downplay domestic terrorism as psychologically disturbed individual lone-wolfs.

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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday October 02 2017, @06:32PM (2 children)

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday October 02 2017, @06:32PM (#576057) Journal

    Could the 273 include shootings where nobody died? If not, what is the death threshold, 3? Maybe it was my fault and I should specify 10+ dead in 1 shooting daily. But the amount of killings needed to force change = arbitrary hypothetical speculation anyway.

    Nevermind, I found the definition [abc15.com]:

    According to data from the Gun Violence Archive, a total of 273 mass shooting incidents have occurred so far this year, as of October 2. There doesn't seem to be an official definition for a "mass shooting" in the United States, but according to the Gun Violence Archive, a mass shooting is described as four or more individuals being shot or killed in the same general time and location.

    I think you are probably right that a blanket ban (to include a repeal of the 2nd Amendment) would reduce the amount of people who can engage in these attacks. Kind of like that Soylentil AC who can't get cannabis because he's not cool enough and entirely antisocial. Remove the legitimate avenues to buy guns, and these peoples' actions will look much more suspicious as they are fumbling around trying to get machine guns from people who are FBI snitches. And going the 3D print/CNC mill route is either expensive, takes some skill, or produces an inferior weapon.

    That said, it could be offset by permanent war with militia types who have plenty of stockpiled guns and the skill to make some of their own. I think there are tens of thousands of people who are not committing violence but would start to do so if something as momentous as a 2nd Amendment repeal happened. Kind of like how Waco inspired the Oklahoma City bombing.

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  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday October 02 2017, @07:08PM (1 child)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Monday October 02 2017, @07:08PM (#576097) Homepage Journal

    Probably hundreds of thousands. Possibly a million or two. I know I'd be one of them for certain.

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    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday October 02 2017, @07:50PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 02 2017, @07:50PM (#576138) Journal

      Ditto that. I may not be much use out in the field at my age, but I'd find some way to make myself useful.