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posted by cmn32480 on Monday October 09 2017, @08:38PM   Printer-friendly
from the why-check-the-file-system? dept.

In an effort to block Amazon from getting the top-level domain .amazon, Brazil may have put governments on a crash course with the private sector over control of the web.

In an aggressive and contradictory letter [PDF] on Wednesday to the overseer of the internet's domain name system, ICANN, Brazilian technology minister Benedicto Filho insisted the US non-profit not approve the creation of .amazon, and states strongly that governments have the final say on what should appear online.

As you may well know, Brazil is particularly enamored with the word Amazon, being the home of the Amazon Jungle. And it doesn't want some moneybags American retailer nabbing the top-level domain for the rainforest.

"It is the right and duty of governments – and not of Amazon the company, nor any panel constituted by three nationals of a single country in their individual capacity, nor even of the ICANN Board of Directors – to identify the public policy issues that may justify the Board to adopt certain decisions," Filho said.

He goes on to say that if ICANN was "required to substitute the views of governments and the GAC [Governmental Advisory Committee] for its own judgments ... it would be dealing a fatal blow to the multi-stakeholder governance model upon which ICANN is based."

In essence, Brazil says that unless ICANN does what it says – in this case not allow for the creation of the .amazon top-level domain for Jeff Bezos' Amazon – then the entire model of internet governance that the organization represents, where all parties including governments, the technical community and business have an equal say, is invalid.

That extraordinary contradiction – that an equitable decision-making process only exists so long as governments have the final say – is not the only one in the letter.

Filho goes on to insist that all governments agree with Brazil and Peru's position that .amazon not be added to the internet, but in making his case only cites meetings held in Brazil by Brazilian interests.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/27/brazil_dot_amazon_gtld/


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  • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Monday October 09 2017, @10:38PM (6 children)

    by LoRdTAW (3755) on Monday October 09 2017, @10:38PM (#579475) Journal

    Because billions of dollars arent riding on the fact that your name is john smith just like the other nobody schmuck down the street.

    The part that bothers me here is us schmucks would have an awful hard time trying to convince ICANN to give us our own TLD. Yet the multi billion dollar economy that is Amazon gets theirs.

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2017, @10:46PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 09 2017, @10:46PM (#579481)

    It's all about centralized control, because there is a vast amount of money to be made.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by LoRdTAW on Tuesday October 10 2017, @02:26AM (3 children)

      by LoRdTAW (3755) on Tuesday October 10 2017, @02:26AM (#579563) Journal

      They are close to becoming their own economy. Factory to door step. The other day I was thinking about how an Idiocracy or Demolition Man like future where Amazon owns and controls so much of the supply chain infrastructure that they are a near monopoly.

      Buy an Amazon prefab home in an amazon village complete with smaller edge warehouses stocked with the most consumed items for that particular hub (food stuffs, toiletries, and other consumeables) that are nearly empty buildings full of robots that just dump packages into amazon cars that are part taxi part rental car for the tenants of the village. Maybe you get to live in the village so long as you agree to only consume certain items from amazon. Want to order takeout? Amazon Chinese American, Amazon Pizza, Amazon Burritos. Or just walk down to the local amazon burger joint.

      I mean where does Amazon stop? I saw an article the other day asking "Why doesn't Amazon get into Pharmaceuticals?". I mean what's next? Amazon home/auto/life/health insurance becoming part of your prime family care package? I could see Amazon buying a truck manufacturer for billions just so they could build their own autonomous electric truck fleets for 100% end-to-end supply chain control.

      Think Walmart is bad? LOL! Amazon are the guys who keep Walmart execs awake at night. Walmart isn't a competitor. No. They're a speed bump in the path of Amazons runaway manufacturer-to-DOORSTEP supply chain freight train.

      "Choo choo, Mother Fuckers!" --Jeff Brazos

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2017, @04:26AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2017, @04:26AM (#579614)

        ... and then city. It would be a great experiment to see some market-driven innovation in social organization.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2017, @11:29AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2017, @11:29AM (#579731)

          > I'd love to see Amazon start a neighborhood and then city. It would be a great experiment to see some market-driven innovation in social organization.

          ... I hope this is a troll. [wikipedia.org]

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2017, @01:13PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2017, @01:13PM (#579752)

            Give it another go.

  • (Score: 2) by TheLink on Tuesday October 10 2017, @06:31AM

    by TheLink (332) on Tuesday October 10 2017, @06:31AM (#579672) Journal

    The part that bothers me here is us schmucks would have an awful hard time trying to convince ICANN to give us our own TLD.

    I realized the ICANN weren't about technology and more about money years ago when I tried to get the ICANN to reserve .here for everyone to use privately (similar to RFC1918 but for domains e.g. MyNAS.here [1] ) but they were too busy approving YetMoreDotComs like .biz and .info.

    Even back then to merely _apply_ to get a TLD from ICANN required an application fee of $185,000 or something like that.

    [1] Basically .here was to be DNS equivalent of the RFC1918 IP address ranges - they shouldn't normally be seen on the public Internet, but OK for internal networks. And by reserving them for internal use you can be sure your internal FQDNs won't clash with something else the ICANN wants to make money from later. e.g. say people in South America were using .amazon internally and ICANN suddenly approves the public .amazon TLD.

    Also tried with the IETF too: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-yeoh-tldhere-01 [ietf.org]