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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday October 10 2017, @06:16AM   Printer-friendly
from the ethics-committee dept.

Submitted via IRC for TheMightyBuzzard

Bath Spa University is conducting an internal inquiry into claims that it turned down an application for research on gender reassignment reversal because it was "potentially politically incorrect" and would attract criticism on social media.

James Caspian, a psychotherapist who specialises in working with transgender people, proposed the research about "detransitioning" to the university in south-west England, which, he said, initially approved the application.

When he went back with his preliminary findings that suggested growing numbers of young people, particularly women, were regretting gender reassignment, Bath Spa said his proposal would have to be resubmitted to the ethics committee, which rejected it.

Caspian, who enrolled on an MA course at the university, said he was "astonished" by the decision and had sought legal advice.

"The fundamental reason given was that it might cause criticism of the research on social media, and criticism of the research would be criticism of the university. They also added it's better not to offend people," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme on Monday.

I was going to add some snark here but they pretty well covered making a mockery of academia for me.

Source: The Guardian

Also at: The Times


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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Bot on Tuesday October 10 2017, @07:32AM (9 children)

    by Bot (3902) on Tuesday October 10 2017, @07:32AM (#579689) Journal

    Let's face it, progressives are now the epicenter of bigotry. The sacking of Eich, the imposition of CoC, the propaganda about gender fed to schoolchildren, covering up inconvenient facts. Ignoring this is like ignoring that the right, that now shows the banners of tradition and personal freedom, comes from the national socialists, the revolutionary progressives of the 1920s destroying local culture, putting people at the service of the system and not vice versa, perverting religion.
    TPTB never love the Truth, because the Truth does not care about their power.

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2017, @04:32PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2017, @04:32PM (#579878)

    I think you just have zero clue about reality, your creators forgot to program in more dynamic filters so apparently you are as limited as a normal human being. Found your worldview and now you know the Truth.

    This weird spin of "conservatives are the truly tolerant!" is the most outlandish and retarded thing to be proposed in a very long time. As usual, the majority of citizens are somewhere in the middle between these two opposing factions, and shame on you for propagating the culture divide that prevents us from actually understanding each other.

    I would like to remind everyone that not only is this article about the UK, but the university is called Bath Spa and "the institution gained full university status in August 2005". It is apparently a legit university and all, but this is hardly newsworthy except for its politically divisive topic.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2017, @05:12PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2017, @05:12PM (#579899)

      No No No!! Somewhere there are 150 million blue haired commies peddling HRT to schoolchildren like crack

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2017, @08:58PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2017, @08:58PM (#580056)

      Here we have intolerant liberals being racist. Of course, they try to redefine that word to exclude their own racist behavior.

      https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/08/11/people-of-color-college-students-try-to-forbid-white-roommates/ [pjmedia.com]

      There is even a reddit group that challenges people to guess if words come from Stormfront or a SJW!

      https://www.reddit.com/r/StormfrontorSJW/ [reddit.com]

      Try a few yourself:

      https://www.vip2.co.uk/forum/topic/83147-stormfront-or-sjw/ [vip2.co.uk]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 11 2017, @05:36PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 11 2017, @05:36PM (#580613)

        Not saying there aren't shithead liberals, assholes come in many packages.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Bot on Tuesday October 10 2017, @08:58PM

      by Bot (3902) on Tuesday October 10 2017, @08:58PM (#580058) Journal

      > This weird spin of "conservatives are the truly tolerant!"
      This is what you made of my "the right, that now shows the banners of tradition and personal freedom, comes from the national socialists, the revolutionary progressives of the 1920s destroying local culture". I will restate it, the right calls tradition the destruction caused by progressive bigots led by the former socialist Mussolini and the national-socialist Hitler in the 20s. How does make them tolerant? they are just less able to be bigots now. So the first place goes to left leaning progressives. Maybe in 20 years it will be different.

      > UK not USSA
      My point is that progressives are the same in the whole world. They held up the mao booklets, they held up the svastika. Progress is simply the progress of a plan of social deconstruction.

      > shame for propagating culture divide
      I wish I had that power, LOL.

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  • (Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Tuesday October 10 2017, @06:12PM (1 child)

    by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Tuesday October 10 2017, @06:12PM (#579941) Journal

    You're just as bad as this sensationalist piece of crap.

    You call propaganda: gender is innate, and the brain is a gendered organ.

    You call reality: gender is a social construct, and the brain is not a gendered organ.

    But none of you listen, so let me attempt to bold the part that's important to this sensationalist crap and your feminist horseshit. The brain is a gendered organ. Physically. Verified. With. Brain. Imaging.

    But you still will insist that gender is a social construct and that once assigned a caste, it is the epitome of all evil for an individual to change their caste. The hallmark of a caste system, right there.

    (Circle of prot… oh fuck it. If you [and likely the author of this paper] can't read the part I bolded in this post, fucking forget it. Now, if the author of this paper realized that without a diagnostic for brain gender, without MRI/CT/etc imaging of the patient's brain, that mistakes will happen, and detransition may be necessary for certain people… oh fuck it, now I'm talkin' like a fag [wikipedia.org]!)

    What a perfect collision of ideological horseshit and religion completely divorced from science, this is. In one corner, SJWs who have their heads up their asses about gender but are absolutely convinced that trans people have authentic identities. In the other corner, feminists and other reactionaries who have their heads up their asses about gender but are absolutely convinced that trans people have inauthentic identities. Neither side can give me any kind of reason based in science that can also withstand scientific skepticism for why they're right.

    Next you'll tell me the world is flat, just because in order to show the world is curved, again, I need to talk like a fag. >:(

    • (Score: 2) by Bot on Tuesday October 10 2017, @09:51PM

      by Bot (3902) on Tuesday October 10 2017, @09:51PM (#580092) Journal

      Didn't we have this convo already? Go get the standards for sexual education documents for the EU pdfs, and see whether they are about gendered brain proven by imaging.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2017, @07:20PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 10 2017, @07:20PM (#579991)

    Let's face it, progressives are now the epicenter of bigotry...propaganda about gender fed to schoolchildren...covering up inconvenient facts...

    I suspect it has a lot to do with the right's past abuse of "de-gaying" therapies (DGT as a working term). These researchers may have feared that the same groups would take their research and over-extrapolate it to justify and/or misuse it on DGT.

    Whether the DGT-misuse risk is strong enough to cancel research is subject to debate, but it is a legitimate concern. Researchers have similarly discontinued projects that terrorists could use to make horrid weapons.

    • (Score: 2) by Bot on Wednesday October 11 2017, @11:11AM

      by Bot (3902) on Wednesday October 11 2017, @11:11AM (#580392) Journal

      > it is a legitimate concern

      censoring research is another legitimate concern, one that is usually voiced by progressives when some people tries to use the bible as a scientific reference. If I were a progressive I would be pissed that the same tactic of the enemy is employed when convenient, because it legitimizes your enemy and erases any moral high ground you might think you are enjoying.

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