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posted by CoolHand on Tuesday October 10 2017, @03:47PM   Printer-friendly
from the articles-for-the-birds dept.

Spotted at Hackaday is a story on positive reinforcement to train crows to pick up litter:

A Dutch startup wants to teach the crow population to pick up cigarette butts in exchange for bird treats.

The whole Corvidae family of birds is highly intelligent so it shouldn’t be a problem training them that they will get a reward for depositing something the Hominidae family regularly throw on the street where the birds live. This idea is in turn an evolution of the open-source Crow Box.

For some, leveraging the intelligence of animals is more appealing than programming drones which could do the same thing. A vision system mixed with a drone and a manipulator could fulfull[sic] the same function but animals are self-repairing and autonomous without our code. The irony of this project is that, although it's probably fairly easy to train crows to recognize cigarette butts, the implementation hinges on having a vision system that can recognize the butts in order to properly train the crows in the first place.


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  • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Tuesday October 10 2017, @09:51PM (6 children)

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Tuesday October 10 2017, @09:51PM (#580093)

    Other than japanese just being adverse to littering

    No, that's the main reason right there, not anything about pocket ashtrays. It's not just cigarette butts that are missing from the streets of Japan and other public areas, it's all other trash too. You can even see it at the train/subway station: in Japan, there's just the rails, and the gravel, and that's it. Go to any subway in the US and you'll see all kinds of trash strewn around the tracks. Americans are simply litterbugs. They're not quite as bad as they were decades ago in the 70s, and not quite as bad as some underdeveloped countries, but they're really not clean people at all.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 11 2017, @07:30AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 11 2017, @07:30AM (#580332)
    I think it's the Japanese who are the outliers. In the litterbug graph the rest of the world are more clustered together while the Japanese are in a different spot. Probably similar for some other graphs too ;).

    As the joke goes: During the FIFA World Cup the stadiums were cleaner AFTER the Japanese fans... I've friends who've stayed in Japan and they say they'd believe that- e.g. the fans might pick up trash and clean seats with wet-wipes. There are places where there aren't trash bins to be seen but they'd still be clean - you'd see the Japanese carry their trash with them, all the way home if necessary.
  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday October 11 2017, @11:07AM (2 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday October 11 2017, @11:07AM (#580390) Homepage Journal

    That's one of the things I least liked about moving from OK to TN. People in OK, for the most part, do not litter but every fucking morning here in TN I have to go pick up whatever bullshit some asshole decided they'd rather throw out their window into my yard than keep in their car until they got home.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 11 2017, @08:44PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 11 2017, @08:44PM (#580790)

      > but every fucking morning here in TN

      Probably not very often. How often do you get to fuck in the morning?

  • (Score: 2) by Aiwendil on Wednesday October 11 2017, @12:14PM (1 child)

    by Aiwendil (531) on Wednesday October 11 2017, @12:14PM (#580414) Journal

    For fun - imagine the issue of putting the cigarette out and keeping the butt without the portable ashtray (designated smoking areas are a quite new thing).

    But yes, I agree that the main reason is being litter-adverse but I'd argue that it is helped by devices that makes keeping clean easier.

    Personally I don't consider the japanese to ge that extreme in cleaning but I'm a native swede - here we at least dump our thrash near the thrashcan (fun thing in sweden, you can tell if a can is full just by seeing thrash next to it, and we can bury a thrashcan in garbage and keep the rest of the area clean without finding it odd), except for cigarettebutts for some reason.

    • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Wednesday October 11 2017, @03:14PM

      by Grishnakh (2831) on Wednesday October 11 2017, @03:14PM (#580507)

      But yes, I agree that the main reason is being litter-adverse but I'd argue that it is helped by devices that makes keeping clean easier.

      I completely disagree. The devices exist in Japan because of their litter-averseness. Remember, necessity is the mother of invention, so the portable ashtray was invented because someone, somewhere, didn't want to litter cigarette butts. Therefore, smokers in Japan buy these things and use them to avoid littering, whereas American smokers probably haven't even heard of such a thing, because they don't give a shit about littering.

      Personally I don't consider the japanese to ge that extreme in cleaning but I'm a native swede

      That's because you live in another highly civilized society, not one that really isn't much different from some dirty third-world country.