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posted by mrpg on Wednesday October 11 2017, @06:05PM   Printer-friendly
from the took-way-too-long dept.

"A Utah police officer [Jeff Payne] who was caught on video roughly handcuffing a nurse because she refused to allow a blood draw was fired Tuesday in a case that became a flashpoint in the ongoing national conversation about police use of force."

Salt Lake City Police Chief Mike Brown made the decision after an internal investigation found evidence Detective Jeff Payne violated department policies when he arrested nurse Alex Wubbels and dragged her out of the hospital as she screamed on July 26, said Sgt. Brandon Shearer, a spokesman for the department.

Attorney Greg Skordas has said Payne served the department well for nearly three decades and questioned whether his behavior warranted termination. He couldn't immediately be reached for comment Tuesday.

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Utah cop fired after arresting nurse who wouldn't draw blood
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Utah officer wants to apologize for nurse's controversial arrest


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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Thursday October 12 2017, @02:50AM (1 child)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 12 2017, @02:50AM (#580933) Journal

    Every working man and woman in the world is subjected to situations which they don't approve of. Sometimes, you even work for a complete freaking idiot, an incompetent boob. You know, and I know, that the working person seldom has any influence over the situation. You follow orders, do as you're told, and "don't rock the boat", or you're fired.

    I would like to think that MOST cops would turn on a fellow cop who flagrantly violates human rights, and/or commits major felonies. I can't KNOW that, but I would like to believe so. My interactions with police, over the course of many years, has convinced me that there are far to many bad cops. But, I've also met a lot of good cops. I've even met a few who have stuck their necks out to ensure that something resembling justice was dealt.

    A big part of our problem when trying to judge cops is, we don't get all the facts. The truth is kept out of sight, and we're left guessing most of the time. We're sure that a cop did something wrong - but we are never allowed to learn whether he did it out of malice, or it was a mistake, or maybe even the media got it all wrong.

    That secrecy needs to be done away with. Body cams are part of the solution to that. Every cop needs to wear one, and the cop must NOT have any control over that camera. He puts it on when he comes on duty, it records until he goes off duty. It's part of his uniform, and being out of uniform warrants a week of UNPAID suspension.

    Then, we can begin weeding out the bad cops. And, maybe, the good cops will take more pride in their jobs.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12 2017, @05:45AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12 2017, @05:45AM (#580995)
    That's why I say most people aren't good or bad. A minority are bad and smaller minority are good. The rest follow what's the perceived norm.

    Just because you don't do the bad stuff makes you better but doesn't make you good.

    Go look at the Stanford prison experiment, the Milgram experiment and similar. There are a bunch who are good enough to refuse to go along but how many tried to call the police to say a crime may have been committed or similar?

    Thus if you really want good stuff to happen you should try to set up systems so that such things are less likely to happen. The camera stuff you mention might help.