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Phoenix666 and looorg have both written in with stories about 'Star Trek: Discovery':
'Star Trek: Discovery' Producers: Be Patient With Us
The Fine Article contains spoilers for those who haven't seen the show:
The lightness and easygoing chemistry among the "Discovery" cast present a stark contrast with the characters of "Discovery." In the first few episodes, the show has turned Burnham into a shunned mutineer, introduced a suspicious skipper in Capt. Gabriel Lorca (Jason Isaacs) and given us an arrogant and snappy scientist in Lt. Paul Stamets (Anthony Rapp).
star-trek-discovery-starfleetIt's the darkness of the characters and the background, which is set amid a war with the Klingons, as well as potentially continuity-bending aspects like Burnham being the adoptive daughter of Sarek, Spock's dad, that have some longtime Trekkies nervous.
If you're among those worried about the changes brought on by "Discovery," the producers have some advice for you: Just wait a little bit.
"We are canon," executive producer Alex Kurtzman said in an interview Saturday. "You'll have to be patient with us."
Kurtzman addressed the notion that the show would be grittier, assuring fans that the core themes of Star Trek remain.
Is it Game of Thrones in Space?
Windows into the Future
So this is a sure sign of the apocalypse. Windows will still be around in 2256 according to Star Trek. Guess we have to wait for that year of the Linux desktop for a few hundred more years.
https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2017/10/3/16412372/star-trek-discovery-cbs-windows-code-command-line
(Score: 3, Disagree) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 12 2017, @12:38PM (5 children)
Which might have been a problem if what he said and what got done were remotely the same.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2, Funny) by Ethanol-fueled on Thursday October 12 2017, @01:35PM
If they're gonna go all diversity on us, why not take it to the extreme and stop pussyfootin' around? I want to see captain D'Jarius who prefers to carry disruptor pistols stolen from his enemies tucked in his waistband rather than phasers.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by BasilBrush on Thursday October 12 2017, @02:00PM (3 children)
It sounds exactly what was done, and it wasn't a problem. Face it, Star Trek is basically socialist. If you ignore the crap that was DS9 and Enterprise.
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(Score: 5, Insightful) by rleigh on Thursday October 12 2017, @05:51PM
I would argue that DS9 also fits this mould, but with a difference. TOS and TNG were set squarely in the federation, a quasi-utopia with occasional interaction with other species. DS9 sets the same people in a different context: a distant outpost in the aftermath of a war where people on both sides of the conflict have to live with their history and its influence on their present and future, and where material needs and money are still a reality. It's easy to be "good" in a utopia. DS9 often constrasts the two conditions, and what has been gained and lost by both, and how other cultures with different social norms interact with it; while different I really liked it, and I think it's got even better with age. It allowed them to explore material which would otherwise have been difficult (religion, damagoguery), yet still was ultimately aspirational, about seeing the best of humanity even in bad circumstances.
This has been done by others as well. Take Ian M. Banks "Culture" novels. Like Trek, the Culture meta-civilisation is super advanced, and they live in a utopia with all material needs taken care of. But stories about perfect people in perfect worlds aren't intrinsically very interesting. So each of his novels looks at the Culture from different perspectives, to give insights into them which would otherwise not be apparent. This includes primitive species (Inversions), vastly more advanced races (Excession), developing species and co-civilisations (Matter, Surface Detail, The Hydrogen Sonata), enemy civilisations (Consider Phlebas, Look to Windward, Player of Games) and cultures which develop along different lines (Against a Dark Background). Superbly done, and it also reveals the dark side of utopia and meddling with other civilisations even with the best of intentions, which is touched on a little by Trek, but not to the same extent.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12 2017, @06:05PM (1 child)
True enough. But as a kid it taught me more or less why socialism would never work now, maybe in 400 years sure, but not now. People there were nothing like people I saw in the real world, and I was just a kid mind you but I could easily tell the difference. Their MO was totally different, they were driven by things which I found impossible to comprehend. I saw the technology that enabled their lifestyles, and it was PURE MAGIC to me. Sure if we had magic now we can have a go at socialism, why not. I also noted later the glaring issues that were never addressed. Nowhere does it say what the population of Earth was. Picard's brother owned a vineyard, but in socialist utopia who decides ownership? I thought there was no land-owners. So on and so forth.
If anything, StarTrek exposed socialism as fantasy.
(Score: 4, Informative) by BasilBrush on Friday October 13 2017, @12:29AM
If you thought people don't own stuff in socialism, including land, then the problem is that you don't know what socialism is. You've confused it with communism.
Socialism is about how we work, and what for and about making sure everyone is provided for. But it does not make everyone equal. It's not intended to.
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