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Phoenix666 and looorg have both written in with stories about 'Star Trek: Discovery':
'Star Trek: Discovery' Producers: Be Patient With Us
The Fine Article contains spoilers for those who haven't seen the show:
The lightness and easygoing chemistry among the "Discovery" cast present a stark contrast with the characters of "Discovery." In the first few episodes, the show has turned Burnham into a shunned mutineer, introduced a suspicious skipper in Capt. Gabriel Lorca (Jason Isaacs) and given us an arrogant and snappy scientist in Lt. Paul Stamets (Anthony Rapp).
star-trek-discovery-starfleetIt's the darkness of the characters and the background, which is set amid a war with the Klingons, as well as potentially continuity-bending aspects like Burnham being the adoptive daughter of Sarek, Spock's dad, that have some longtime Trekkies nervous.
If you're among those worried about the changes brought on by "Discovery," the producers have some advice for you: Just wait a little bit.
"We are canon," executive producer Alex Kurtzman said in an interview Saturday. "You'll have to be patient with us."
Kurtzman addressed the notion that the show would be grittier, assuring fans that the core themes of Star Trek remain.
Is it Game of Thrones in Space?
Windows into the Future
So this is a sure sign of the apocalypse. Windows will still be around in 2256 according to Star Trek. Guess we have to wait for that year of the Linux desktop for a few hundred more years.
https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2017/10/3/16412372/star-trek-discovery-cbs-windows-code-command-line
(Score: 2) by meustrus on Thursday October 12 2017, @04:09PM (7 children)
I've been watching The Orville and not ST:D (mainly because I'm not signing up for CBS All Access), and I'm starting to wonder which one is really pushing social messages after Ep 3: The One Where The Genderless Species Has Females For Some Reason. It was so cringeworthy to see the crew of The Orville 1) have no concept of the Prime Directive, 2) have very little understanding whatsoever of Moclan culture or law despite it being culturally and legally integrated into their
federation"Union", 3) share a remarkably human view of gender with a species that was supposed to be genderless, and 4) base their entire anti-surgery side of the arguement on nothing but obvious logical fallacies.From what I've heard, at least ST:D does a good job at making social commentary.
If there isn't at least one reference or primary source, it's not +1 Informative. Maybe the underused +1 Interesting?
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Thursday October 12 2017, @04:16PM (3 children)
The tone of the show is really jarring. First two episodes were fluffy and lighthearted, 3 and 4 take a hard left turn into serious issues, then 5 is back to less serious.
That said, I'll continue watching it for now.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12 2017, @04:48PM
Other series in Star Trek also had jarring shifts too. For example, the end of season 3 was a Troi's mother visits, then they save a non-corporeal life form, then they barely survive the Borg. Or season 4, where we go from Barclay becomes a super-genius, to dancing around in tights, to Picard charged with treason, to an alien not wanting to commit ritual suicide, to Crusher has a boyfriend. And those are the two examples that immediately come to mind.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12 2017, @05:31PM (1 child)
But they basically played off The Union as a bunch of expansionistic assholes pushing their ideology onto everyone they meet.
Taken from that stance, they are NOT the federation. However the episode with the floating ship where the 'Taken' guy cameo'd as the former captain (who was the 'god' in their local religion) actually did set out that they tried to minimize interference with more primitive cultures, but since they were on a spaceship it was assumed they already knew the basics. Which it turned out, they didn't, although some heretics believed it so.
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Thursday October 12 2017, @06:30PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa.
The heck? How could you possibly get that impression? They're not conquering or invading anybody as far as we know. Other than fighting the Krill (or whatever), which we don't really know anything about.
Well, one or two specific people on a single ship, anyway. As a general rule, have we seen any indication of that as a Union tendency?
It's the third episode, god damn! It's happened one time!
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 12 2017, @06:08PM (1 child)
Why would they have a concept of the Prime Directive? You know that is part of that ST universe and not a real thing, right?
(Score: 2) by meustrus on Thursday October 12 2017, @08:33PM
They don't need to have come to the exact same conclusion as in Trek. But they act as though the very idea had never come up. This is a spacefaring people building an interspecies confederation of some sort, and so far the universe seems to be full of an even larger variety of tech levels than Trek. At some point, someone must have fucked with a primitive species in a galactic-scandal kind of way. I would expect things to have shaken out, either resulting in a Prime Directive philosophy or a We Know Best philosophy.
If there isn't at least one reference or primary source, it's not +1 Informative. Maybe the underused +1 Interesting?
(Score: 2) by isostatic on Friday October 13 2017, @07:37AM
But is The Orville really any better?
I wouldn't know. Discovery is available to over 5 billion people around the world from about 2AM GMT on Monday morning.
Orville is available to less than 1/10th of that number.
If they can't be bothered to broadcast it, I can't be bothered to watch it.