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posted by martyb on Friday October 13 2017, @04:12PM   Printer-friendly
from the had-better-stop-driving-when-you-reach-the-ocean dept.

Three cities in Colorado — a state whose fortunes have been tied to the boom and bust of oil, gas and other commodities — are among the top 10 leading destinations for the nation's best and brightest as old cow and mining towns morph into technology hubs, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

Boulder, the small college town located just north of Colorado's capital, is ranked No. 1 nationally in the Bloomberg Brain Concentration Index, which tracks business formation as well as employment and education in the sciences, technology, engineering and mathematics. Fort Collins and Denver follow at No. 4 and No. 10, respectively.

Are the best and brightest taking up skiing, or seeking higher ground amid rising sea levels?


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @04:56PM (14 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @04:56PM (#581865)

    If they're headed closer to California, they're not that smart.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @05:19PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @05:19PM (#581878)

    You mean no. 2 and 3 on the list? Not that I give any credence to a business bullshit index.

  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday October 13 2017, @06:03PM (12 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 13 2017, @06:03PM (#581910) Journal

    If they're headed closer to California, they're not that smart.

    My understanding is that most of them are heading the other way, leaving California. Colorado along with other nearby states (like Oregon, Washington, and Arizona) are dumping grounds for California refugees.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @06:37PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @06:37PM (#581930)

      most of them are heading the other way, leaving California. Colorado [etc.] are dumping grounds for California refugees.

      Run for governor of Colorado on the theme of building a wall to keep the "damned fornians" out, and make CA pay for it.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by NewNic on Friday October 13 2017, @06:53PM (7 children)

      by NewNic (6420) on Friday October 13 2017, @06:53PM (#581941) Journal

      Like most of your "understanding", you are wrong.

      House prices are still rising in the SF Bay Area. Do you think that happens because there is a net migration away?

      You really represent the typical "low information voter", don't you.

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      lib·er·tar·i·an·ism ˌlibərˈterēənizəm/ noun: Magical thinking that useful idiots mistake for serious political theory
      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday October 13 2017, @07:53PM (4 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 13 2017, @07:53PM (#581977) Journal

        House prices are still rising in the SF Bay Area. Do you think that happens because there is a net migration away?

        Net migration away != no migration away. I don't know what the current emigration rate is, but it was around a million a year last decade.

        • (Score: 2) by NewNic on Friday October 13 2017, @08:05PM (2 children)

          by NewNic (6420) on Friday October 13 2017, @08:05PM (#581986) Journal

          Net migration away != no migration away.

          Net migration is the only measure that matters.

          People retire and move away and are replaced by younger people. So what?

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          lib·er·tar·i·an·ism ˌlibərˈterēənizəm/ noun: Magical thinking that useful idiots mistake for serious political theory
          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday October 13 2017, @08:52PM (1 child)

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 13 2017, @08:52PM (#582004) Journal

            Net migration is the only measure that matters.

            Ok. That has nothing to do with the fact that people leave California for other places, including Colorado.

            People retire and move away and are replaced by younger people. So what?

            So net migration is not the only measure that matters. Now, you've introduced some supposed age thing which is just as irrelevant since age wasn't one of the factors studied.

            My experience has been that in some parts of California, people don't last till retirement age. I worked in California near San Jose for a couple of years and then ended up in Washington state near Portland - little over 30 years old at the time). I returned to go back to graduate school at Davis, CA and left again when I was 40 years old for Denver (though I currently spend most of my time in Yellowstone National Park). Did I "retire" from California?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @11:25PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 13 2017, @11:25PM (#582072)

              Ahem no.2 and 3 on the list?

        • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday October 13 2017, @10:17PM

          by aristarchus (2645) on Friday October 13 2017, @10:17PM (#582044) Journal

          I don't know what the current emigration rate is, but it was around a million a year last decade.

          I don't know what the current emigration rate is, either, but it was -100,000 per week in 2005.

      • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Friday October 13 2017, @08:35PM

        by Grishnakh (2831) on Friday October 13 2017, @08:35PM (#581997)

        He never said that there was a net migration away from California, just that those particular states were receiving a lot of people who had moved out of CA. It's still quite possible for CA to keep increasing its population despite losing so many people, from both internal growth (birth rate > death rate) and immigration (from both inside and outside the US). Remember, many places in "middle America" are steadily losing population as their young people abandon rural areas and small towns, with many of those surely going to California.

      • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:00AM

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Saturday October 14 2017, @01:00AM (#582108) Homepage

        Bay-area home prices are rising due to foreign investment and trust-fund babies. The implosion has already begun, and will reach its totality soon.

        And with all the raging wildfires having razed the immediate north, the doctrine of Disaster Capitalism will dictate that property costs will rise even more high thanks to rebuilding at a higher-level luxury than before.

    • (Score: 5, Funny) by Phoenix666 on Friday October 13 2017, @07:23PM (2 children)

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday October 13 2017, @07:23PM (#581958) Journal

      White people have been leaving California for the Pacific Northwest for 30 years. People in Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming call it "californication." They have raised hackles among the natives because they tend to be holier-than-thou post-hippies who drove up all the local housing prices. They moved in first to Seattle and Portland, which drove those inhabitants to Bend, Eugene, Tacoma, Spokane, Coeur d'Alene, Boise, Missoula. Successive waves have since reached those aforementioned communities plus smaller ones like Sandpoint, Kalispell, Pendleton, Cody, and Buffalo. Poor bastards.

      So far Utah's Mormons and the white supremacists in the Idaho panhandle have repelled californication, but it's only a matter of time before they too succumb.

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      Washington DC delenda est.
      • (Score: 4, Informative) by crafoo on Saturday October 14 2017, @02:59AM

        by crafoo (6639) on Saturday October 14 2017, @02:59AM (#582158)

        People mark this funny but it's not. These vermin move into a peaceful, balanced community in the Pacific NW and then begin to implement the same insane, ignorant laws and policies that ruined the last place they lived. They are so completely clueless they do not understand THEY are what is wrong. They are secure in their belief that they know what's best for this new community though. Having tested and proven their ideas are complete ignorant bullshit, they look everywhere else but themselves to place blame. Their idiocy ruined the last place. It ruins the new place. Yet they are bewildered and unable to understand.

        Californians, please fuck off to the east coast. No one likes you here.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @05:31AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 14 2017, @05:31AM (#582190)

        they havevestablishedctheir beachhead in Boise. Thats where Micron is HQ, and they have a fab there too. HP/HPE basically moved their Oregon offices to Boise too. So there is your high tech pipeline.