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posted by martyb on Sunday October 15 2017, @07:46PM   Printer-friendly
from the who-wants-a-fat-warrant? dept.

A federal judge has approved a warrant for web hosting company DreamHost's records for DisruptJ20.org, a site that was used to plan anti-Trump protests on Inauguration Day. However, the scope of the warrant has been significantly narrowed:

"[W]hile the government has the right to execute its Warrant," D.C. Superior Court Judge Robert Morin wrote in his order, "it does not have the right to rummage through the information contained on DreamHost's website and discover the identity of, or access communications by, individuals not participating in alleged criminal activity, particularly those persons who were engaging in protected First Amendment activities."

The government sought the warrant as it gathers evidence for its cases against nearly 200 people charged with rioting on Jan. 20.

The judge's new order instructs DreamHost to redact identifying information of "innocent persons" who visited the website before providing the records to the government. It also dictates a protocol for incorporating procedural safeguards to comply with "First Amendment and Fourth Amendment considerations." Among other stipulations, the government must submit to the court its plan for permanently deleting from its possession all information not within the scope of the warrant.

DreamHost considered the judge's ruling a significant victory. "The new order is a far cry from the original warrant we received in July," DreamHost General Counsel Christopher Ghazarian wrote in a statement to NPR. "Absent a finding by the Court that probable cause of criminal activity exists, the government will not be able to uncover the identities of these users. There are also quite a few modifications that further reduce the government's ability to review unrelated data. This is another huge win not just for DreamHost, but for internet users around the world."

Also at Reason, The Register, Engadget, and Infosecurity Magazine.


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  • (Score: 3, Disagree) by unauthorized on Monday October 16 2017, @07:23AM (5 children)

    by unauthorized (3776) on Monday October 16 2017, @07:23AM (#582922)

    Alright, let's check it out together, shall we?

    Powerful and Continuing Nationalism

    This has been a consistent trend in the USA since it's inception. Patriotism tends to be an inevitable aspect of a revolutionary state. The hallmark of a fascist state is state seizure of all aspects of social life, and many do use nationalism in order to reinforce public obedience to the state, but organic patriotism such as what you have in America is completely unrelated to state authoritarianism. Talk about missing cause and effect.

    Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights

    Too vague. To a communist, the right to comfortable lifestyle is a universal human rights. To an anarcho-capitalist, the right to freedom from the state interference is universal human right. These are mutually exclusive.

    Yes, America has a problem with some human rights, but on the grand scale of things, it's one of the freest places on Earth as far as civil liberties are concerned. If you lived in an authoritarian state, you wouldn't be able to say half the things you say on the Internet. I know this because I am from Eastern Europe where we did have actual oppressive totalitarian shitholes and saying something like "the leader's hair looks bad" would have been grounds for being disappeared, let alone publicly insulting him or criticizing his authority.

    Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause

    You mean like the great enemy called the "alt right"?

    But snarky remarks aside, if someone is actually attacking you (ie radical islamist organizations), they are NOT a scapegoat but an actual legitimate enemy.

    Supremacy of the Military

    Not a thing. Next.

    Rampant Sexism

    Not to sound like an MRA but most of your sexism problems are anti-male, unlike what this list claims.

    Controlled Mass Media

    You mean the same media that keeps shitting on Trump? Yeah, the poor oppressed media, I'm going to go chop some onions on their behalf.

    Obsession with National Security

    I'll give you that, 100% applies to the USA.

    Religion and Government are Intertwined

    Not a thing. Next.

    Corporate Power is Protected

    No. Under fascist states, the supreme power lies in the state and corporations are subservient to it. Under a corporatist state like your own, the corporations control the state by abusing their disproportionate accumulated wealth to "incentive" public policy in their favor. You don't have fascism, you have a plutocracy.

    Labor Power is Suppressed

    They are not being suppressed, at least not by the state. Next.

    Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts

    These are two separate issues, so I'll address them separately.

    Disdain for the arts? Fuck no, entertainment media is a fucking monstrosity and the media elites are quite chummy with the state. The "arts" are not being disdained in any way.

    Disdain for intellectuals? This is not characteristic for fascism in particular, it's characteristic for pretty much any human society because most people are petty and jealous, and they really hate it when those smartasses have arguments against their "I'm right and that's it" opinions. As long as one person is smarter than another, disdain for intellectualism is inevitable because human psychology is just like that. Go ask nature for a refund if you don't like it.

    Obsession with Crime and Punishment

    I can give you that one too, America has a huge problem with it's anti-crime culture.

    Rampant Cronyism and Corruption

    U wot m8. Which political system DOESN'T have rampant corruption and cronyism? Sure, not all states do, but pretty much any form of governance is susceptible to it.

    Fraudulent Elections

    Not a thing.

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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday October 16 2017, @01:48PM (4 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 16 2017, @01:48PM (#582986) Journal

    But snarky remarks aside, if someone is actually attacking you (ie radical islamist organizations), they are NOT a scapegoat but an actual legitimate enemy.

    They can still be a scapegoat. On December 22, 2001, a terrorist wearing high tops lined with a plastic explosive attempted to blow a hole in the side of an airplane. More than 15 years later, most US security checkpoints at airports still require people to take their shoes off because of that one attempted bombing. That's the security ratchet in action.

    Another example is North Korea. They were in a real war with South Korea, US, and other allies. And they're still at war, despite most of the shooting having stopped long ago, because having a permanent state of war is real convenient for controlling their population.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 16 2017, @09:20PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 16 2017, @09:20PM (#583169)

      Very crafty how you managed to omit from the won't-come-to-the-negotiating-table picture the globe's #1 aggressor for well over half a century now.
      I guess it's only fitting that somebody keeps spouting the Cold War bullshit while USA continues to do B-52 practice missions over North Korea.

      Want your adversary to talk peace?
      For starters, stop rattling your saber.
      ...especially if your saber is MANY times larger than his.

      ...and the Norks' populace remembers how USA.mil ran out of targets in the 1950s and came back and bombed the rubble.
      ...then, in a monstrous criminal act, USA.gov decided to bomb their dams and flood civilians and the crops that fed civilians.
      In pursuit of total global hegemony, USA.gov is simply evil.
      ...despite your attempt at spin.

      -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday October 16 2017, @11:22PM (2 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday October 16 2017, @11:22PM (#583213) Journal

        Very crafty how you managed to omit from the won't-come-to-the-negotiating-table picture the globe's #1 aggressor for well over half a century now.

        And you should too. Let us keep in mind that no other country has this problem with the US. Even Cuba which has a quasi-permanent embargo is still at a state of peace with the US and has been that way for a long time. North Korea is in a unique class of failure.

        ...and the Norks' populace remembers how USA.mil ran out of targets in the 1950s and came back and bombed the rubble. ...then, in a monstrous criminal act, USA.gov decided to bomb their dams and flood civilians and the crops that fed civilians. In pursuit of total global hegemony, USA.gov is simply evil.

        I find it interesting how you talk big about your democratic version of Socialism. But then defend the worst psychopathic shitstain of the world. North Korea is as far as you get from democracy in the world today, and hence, as far as you get from your ideal of Socialism today.

        Of course, the North Koreans remember all that bad stuff - by design. That's the whole point of the totalitarian scheme of scapegoating the US (and other neighbors of North Korea). To blame someone other than the North Korean government for the many failures of their country since the Korean war and to maintain a common external threat to scare North Koreans so that they don't turn on the leaders instead.

        Let keep in mind that the fighting ended in 1953. There's a 64 year gap between then and now that can't be explained by your Cold War propaganda. The US hasn't been bombing North Korean dams for a long time now. Their shitty country is their own doing now. Let us keep in mind that North Korea has pretty open trade with China and Russia, both large markets. So even with a permanent embargo, they could be vastly better off, if they chose to be.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 17 2017, @02:26AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday October 17 2017, @02:26AM (#583273)

          You just can't quit repeating the Cold War bullshit.
          USA.gov now has ONE THIRD of the total military expenditures on the planet.
          That's NOT "defense"; that's aggression|imperialism|hegemony.

          USA and its quest for empire is the shitstain on the globe.

          a permanent embargo

          Hey! You managed to pull your head out of your ass for a moment.
          Congratulations.
          No, if only you had the processing power to extrapolate the repercussions of what you said.

          -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday October 17 2017, @05:32AM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday October 17 2017, @05:32AM (#583336) Journal

            USA.gov now has ONE THIRD of the total military expenditures on the planet. That's NOT "defense"; that's aggression|imperialism|hegemony.

            Military expenditure != military aggression. For example, spending $400 billion to develop a so-so jet fighter (with another $70 billion on its primary competitor which was discontinued) will reduce the US's future capacity for military aggression and there's a lot of other big failures in military procurement that have similar effect. Similarly, there's a lot of waste (and worse IMHO) in day to day contracting. In an earlier story, there was an equating [soylentnews.org] of money with power. This shows how that goes wrong. There's enormous sums being spent for military activity and results that are embarrassingly paltry.

            My take here is that all you have to do to beat the US militarily is get it into a continuing series of Iraq-like wars for the next two decades. The enormous expenditures are a weakness not a strength of US military capability.

            And I note, aside from a vapid assertion of "Cold War bullshit", you completely ignore my primary complaint about North Korea. Why are you parroting Cold War bullshit and ignoring North Korea's brutality and totalitarian society? You won't find a society more opposed to your claimed ideals of Socialism anywhere in the world today.

            Finally, it's just not that hard to end a war when both sides have stopped fighting. Most wars that the US is involved in have ended long ago. North Korea is the sole reason that the Korean War technically still goes on and people still occasionally die on the border between the two Koreas.