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posted by Fnord666 on Wednesday October 18 2017, @02:55AM   Printer-friendly
from the cost-vs-convenience dept.

With Uber and other ridesharing services becoming a common transit option for some D.C. residents, we wanted to get a sense of when someone might substitute an Uber trip for a Metrorail trip. To do this, we plotted data on travel time and cost, creating a visualization that shows whether Uber or Metro is faster, and at what cost, for 114 different trips between Metro stations. By adding in the time it takes to wait for a Metro train or Uber, walk to the Metro, or sit on a delayed train, we can see how a person's decision might change depending on their circumstances.

The trips we analyzed include trips between the city and the suburbs as well as trips within the city.

[...] We found that for longer trips between the center of the city and the suburbs, Metro tends to be both more cost-effective and quicker than Uber. But for trips within the city that require a Metro transfer, Uber is often quicker than Metro, especially when Metro wait times are long, like on weekends, or when there are delays. While Uber's regular service tends to be much more expensive than Metro, Uber Pool makes some Uber trips nearly as affordable as Metro.

Did they factor in the need for a pack train, 3 days' provisions, and sherpas to get up and down the stairs in the Metro?


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by zocalo on Wednesday October 18 2017, @06:51AM (5 children)

    by zocalo (302) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @06:51AM (#583828)
    It doesn't even need a new term, and never did - "ride sharing" was only ever a typical Uber attempt to obfuscate what they were doing to avoid regulation - it's "private hire", a term that has been in use for decades to differentiate services you can flag down on the street like London's Back Cabs and NYC's Yellow ones from those that you need to pre-book. The only innovations that Uber brought to the table were enabling that pre-booking to be done - admittedly very easily and conveniently - using an App instead of having to phone up or walk into an office, and (of course) in the field of regulatory evasion.
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @07:44AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @07:44AM (#583838)

    The only innovations [...] were enabling that pre-booking [...] using an App

    Well, there have been a whole bunch of folks who think that they should be granted a patent for adding "with a computer" or "via the internet" to an old notion.

    GP's "ride hailing" callout (a term that I would have added to the (meta)thread if he hadn't already) indicates that added dimension to the old thing.
    There's also being able to track how far away your ride is more precisely than with the old pay phone/traditional cab method.

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    ...and TFS contains the term Uber Pool, which I haven't encounterted before.
    That seems to have a "going my way?" element to it.
    So, in that case, we're circling back to "sharing", in a manner of speaking.

    "ride sharing" [...] a typical Uber attempt to obfuscate

    You won't find me arguing with that.

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  • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:21AM (1 child)

    by FatPhil (863) <reversethis-{if.fdsa} {ta} {tnelyos-cp}> on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:21AM (#583873) Homepage
    > services you can flag down on the street like London's Back Cabs and NYC's Yellow ones from those that you need to pre-book

    Total aside: why is the above a thing? Why did governments feel the need to take one market segment (driving people here they want to go for money), and split it into two completely artificial parts?

    > The only innovations ... using an App instead of having to phone up

    Using a phone rather than a phone??!?!? I guess that's why they're worth billions (of techboom virtual money).
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    • (Score: 2) by zocalo on Wednesday October 18 2017, @12:06PM

      by zocalo (302) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @12:06PM (#583894)
      Historically, it was down to regulation. Taxi drivers are in a position of trust for their passengers, so it lets them set bars for entry and control numbers (one of the impacts of services like Uber is that cities apparently see more road traffic and less use of public transport, so expect that to start becoming a consideration again soon). In the case of taxis that can be hired on the spot it allows for an additional level of vetting to as there was no real audit trail to link a given driver to a given passenger in the event of an assault until quite recently. Private hire companies provided that audit trail through their booking system and the fact that a passenger and driver should both be capable of confirming that they were the expected party, so the level of regulation and vetting could be somewhat looser. Neither system is foolproof, of course, technology has blurred the boundaries somewhat, and the systems are often abused (e.g. NYC's medallion cartels) but the basic premise is still the same.
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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by khallow on Wednesday October 18 2017, @01:50PM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday October 18 2017, @01:50PM (#583943) Journal

    The only innovations that Uber brought to the table were enabling that pre-booking to be done - admittedly very easily and conveniently - using an App instead of having to phone up or walk into an office, and (of course) in the field of regulatory evasion.

    Both are huge innovations, let us note. And that is reflected in the swarm of customers who use the service.

  • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Wednesday October 18 2017, @02:30PM

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @02:30PM (#583958)

    "ride sharing" was only ever a typical Uber attempt to obfuscate what they were doing to avoid regulation

    Part true, part not.

    First, there are people who drive for Uber/Lyft who really do have another primary job, and do this on the side to make a few extra dollars, particularly if they have a long commute. But granted, they're not the majority of drivers.

    Secondly, both Uber and Lyft now have true "ride sharing" services that are pretty popular: Uber Pool and Lyft Line. But it's not the driver who's sharing a ride, it's the passengers: different passengers who don't know each other get to share a ride together. These services are cheaper than regular Uber/Lyft, but may take longer because your car can get routed away to pick up or drop off another passenger, but it's much cheaper if you're not in a hurry. Why didn't the cab companies ever think of this first?