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on Wednesday October 18 2017, @07:37AM
from the stick-your-purchases-in-your-boot-for-you? dept.
from the stick-your-purchases-in-your-boot-for-you? dept.
In the minds of mobile shoppers, where is the line between convenience and personal space/privacy? We now have two retailers — Walmart and Amazon, the giants of in-store and online shopping, respectively — separately testing programs to deliver purchases directly into your home or your car trunk when the shopper is nowhere near.
Both efforts rely on mobile devices connecting shoppers to the scene of the delivery, where customers can theoretically watch the delivery in real time. It isn't practical or likely, but that's the idea. Mobile is what justifies these attempts.
Does the trunk of your car really make for a more secure delivery, or is it multiplying insecurities?
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(Score: 2) by terryk30 on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:36PM (5 children)
Of course I know you didn't "mean it", in the sense I doubt you kill people and put them in your trunk, nor would think it funny in any actual case.
It's not about whether I was "offended" or not. I'm glad the AC jumped in below because among other points they used a word that provides a possible nuance: I believe jokes like these are "distasteful" - yes, in the implied arguably-universal it's-not-that-I-have-a-problem sense.
Yeah, I'm tapping against the thick part of gender, gamergate, Milo, Trump, PC-ness, and what flies around here at SN; to make a really long story short I believe there is something to be concerned with. I've witnessed some - how shall I say, serious disconnect when it comes to a not insignificant few men relating to women in an unhealthy way, and jokes like these were often part of the scene.
So not saying that this means you're relating to women in an unhealthy way, but again (going where the AC does below), jokes like these may be over a line in that in their simmering totality - as part of a traditional guy-talk currency - they may be, um, normalizing (oops, SJW term) and thus possibly, subtly, encouraging the unhealthy stuff.
As to reacting here to this particular joke, well, it being such a classic example is what got me to, this time, simply "give notice" that one person at least didn't find it funny.
Hey, it comes down to what kind of world I want, right? ;-)
(Score: 2) by terryk30 on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:40PM (1 child)
(oops, instead of the AC below I meant the AC above)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:06PM
I appreciate you deciding to say something.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:27PM (2 children)
Gotcha. My perspective on it is if someone's intentionally being a douchebag while telling a joke, that's just them being a douchebag and I have no problem giving them grief over being such. The exact same joke could be quite funny told without malice though. So, it's really not about the joke but the intent.
In this universe you'll not find a single particle or wave of offense. It does not exist in and of itself. A person has to affirmatively decide to allow themselves to be offended by something or they won't be. Thus, it's my position that being offended by a joke that was not intended to offend is a flaw in the listener rather than the speaker and that the listener would live a happier life if they worked to rid themselves of that flaw.
Me, I take great pride in my ability to deliver humor well in person. I can tell a second-wave feminist the old "What do you tell a woman with two black eyes?" joke and I may get punched in the arm but she'll be laughing while she does it because she knows I'm just winding her up by the shit-eating grin on my face. I wouldn't bother telling it to a third-wave feminist though. I could still get a laugh, mind you, but I don't like being around hateful people.
Racist jokes are some of my favorites. Tell me a wagon-burning Indian joke and I'll laugh harder than anyone. I could choose to be all offended, sure, but if not being offended and getting a laugh brightens my day, what does being offended gain me? Seriously, consider it for a minute or two. If you can choose to be offended or not, what benefit to your life does being offended bring?
Now if you just don't find a joke especially funny, that's another matter entirely. Different strokes for different folks and all that.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2017, @12:07AM (1 child)
This is the problem right here, you're taking the whole thing WAY too personally when it is clearly about a larger net trend. That was your decision to get all butt hurt about it, but instead of seeing a cultural issue that hits very close to home for all of us on the net you doubled down on your personal world view. I don't think anyone would mistake you for an actual fascist, or say you're an irredeemable misogynist (cept azuma maybe), but you're applying your personal viewpoint on to a larger problem and it simply doesn't fit. I went out of my way to point out that your joke wasn't a big deal (to me anyway) but you just couldn't handle the discussion. There is a real problem with online culture that has very real effects. Perhaps you are able to compartmentalize horrible topics away from your general personality, but there are plenty of young people online who hear adults say shit and they assume it is normal. You can see the same thing in the "SJW" crowd you hate so much, they circle jerk themselves into hating anything that even resembles oppression to the point where they are the oppressors! I guess you'll never believe me when I tell you that you're very similar types, though I'd put you on the lower end of crazy.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday October 19 2017, @12:36AM
You're the one so ranty that you can't even use paragraphs, sweety. Terry and I were having a nice, civil conversation.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.