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posted by martyb on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:18PM   Printer-friendly
from the what-if-nobody-showed-up? dept.

Governor Rick Scott (R) has declared a state of emergency in the county where the University of Florida lay, due to a planned speech by Richard Spencer. According to NPR:

When Hurricane Irma was bearing down on Florida last month, Gov. Rick Scott declared a state of emergency. On Monday, he did the same thing in Alachua County, ahead of a speech by white nationalist Richard Spencer at the University of Florida in Gainesville.

"We live in a country where everyone has the right to voice their opinion, however, we have zero tolerance for violence and public safety is always our number one priority," Scott said in a statement. "This executive order is an additional step to ensure that the University of Florida and the entire community is prepared so everyone can stay safe."

"I find that the threat of a potential emergency is imminent," Scott declared in his executive order, noting that Alachua County Sheriff Sadie Darnell had requested the state's assistance. The order will make it easier for various agencies to coordinate a security plan for Thursday's speech at the university.

[...] No campus group invited Spencer to speak, and the university is not hosting or sponsoring the event. Spencer's group, the National Policy Institute, is paying the university $10,564 for facility rental and security.

And it looks like it could get expensive:

The speech and accompanying protests are also a major expense: The university as well as state and local agencies expect to spend more than $500,000 to provide additional security.

And the University of Florida can't demand that Spencer pay the full cost of protecting him, because of a 1992 U.S. Supreme Court ruling, Forsyth County v. Nationalist Movement.

In that decision, the university explains, "the Court clarified that the government cannot assess a security fee on the speaker based upon the costs of controlling the reaction of potential hostile onlookers or protestors," under legal doctrine known as the "heckler's veto."

Well, that is the cost of free speech in a free country.


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:39PM (13 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:39PM (#584149)

    What's that? You're saying "come on, punch me"? Well, alright. Where are you?

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:46PM (12 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:46PM (#584155)

    Yup. Suspicions confirmed. Thank you and have a nice life.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Sulla on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:58PM (11 children)

      by Sulla (5173) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @09:58PM (#584167) Journal

      Calling everyone and everything Nazi and fasicst reminds me of a town hall meeting McCain had back in 2008. Really disappointed that I was unable to find a link to it.. but it was a long time ago. McCain was talking about something or another, and some guy stood up to ask a question. McCain had some meh answer like he always does, and the guy goes

      Yeah well, you're a NAZI!

      He then threw his arms up in the air like he just scored a touchdown, spun around, and celebrated as he left the room.

      You are pushing so hard and so far to say that everyone resistant to abortion/63 genders/global warming/welfare is a Nazi, and that even questioning these things makes you literally Hitler, that even traditional Democrats are starting to want to be separated from you. Yeah there are Nazis out there, no question about that, the FBI numbers them in the couple thousand. But by calling someone who isn't a Nazi a Nazi, you destroy any chance of them being willing to work with you.

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      Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
      • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:09PM (4 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:09PM (#584179)

        Your troll filters have given you a dead lead. No one accused anyone of being a Nazi. Not one mention of the word or even hints that anyone is/might be/wants to be/pretends to be a Nazi.

        • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:13PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:13PM (#584183)

          You forget, these people got themselves implanted with tiny radios so they can listen to talk radio 24/7, he probably just forgot to turn it off while posting here.

        • (Score: 1) by Sulla on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:15PM (2 children)

          by Sulla (5173) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:15PM (#584187) Journal

          Original post: Something the left would call a nazi
          Response: You keep acting like a nazi you are going to get punched
          OPR: Fine them punch me
          Response: Ha I knew you were a Nazi

          I presume others read it the same way, if incorrect please inform me of actual breakdown.

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          Ceterum censeo Sinae esse delendam
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:34PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:34PM (#584203)

            OP: Look, I'm not 'touching' you! You can't do anything! I dare you to do something about it!
            Response: Don't keep daring as someone might actually do it
            OPR: Oh you want me to punch you? where are you?
            Response: You are a child.
            You: NAZI!!!!!!

            Try again Vlad

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2017, @10:03AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2017, @10:03AM (#584454)

              How is that person a child for mocking the stupidity of asserting that someone else is telling others to punch them when they're not actually saying any such thing? If you can interpret someone's words as saying 'Please punch me!' when they didn't say such a thing in one scenario, then you can do it in any scenario. Pointing that out is not childish.

      • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:20PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:20PM (#584190)

        I'm so confused, I thought Obama was the Nazi. And a Commie.

        But now it seems all the Nazis hate Obama. What's an ignorant fool to do?!?

        I'm not even sure if Nazis are the Good Guys(tm) or teh Bad Guys(tm).

      • (Score: 5, Touché) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:53PM (3 children)

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday October 18 2017, @10:53PM (#584218) Journal

        Everyone....is a Nazi, and that even questioning these things makes you literally Hitler, that even traditional Democrats are starting to want to be separated from you.

        Republicans would never stoop that low! "Hitlery" and "Feminazi" must just be figments of my imagination....

        *cough* [soylentnews.org]

        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Thursday October 19 2017, @12:57PM (2 children)

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday October 19 2017, @12:57PM (#584516) Journal

          There's no shortage of inanity of any variety out there. The public discourse has sunk as low as it can go.

          Either let's get on with a shooting civil war, or apocalyptic traditional war that seques into a civil war, or let's stop speaking and acting in such a sophomoric fashion and speak intelligently with forethought and introspection.

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          Washington DC delenda est.
          • (Score: 2) by ilsa on Thursday October 19 2017, @04:30PM (1 child)

            by ilsa (6082) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 19 2017, @04:30PM (#584642)

            The public discourse has sunk as low as it can go.

            I dunno... every time I think that, it somehow manages to still get worse.

            • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday October 19 2017, @05:12PM

              by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday October 19 2017, @05:12PM (#584670) Journal

              They've normalized every kind of insult, behavior, and crime with the exceptions of child sexual abuse and cannibalism. Technically it could get worse if they crossed those frontiers, so I'll amend what I wrote from "can" to "shall."

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              Washington DC delenda est.
      • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Thursday October 19 2017, @11:28AM

        by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Thursday October 19 2017, @11:28AM (#584473) Homepage Journal

        Everybody says, "oh, Nazis, Nazis." They're not Nazis. They're just proud white people. There was that "tape" that came out. Which, let me tell you, The Atlantic made in a very sneaky way. Not announcing that they were the #FakeNews press. And @RichardBSpencer says, "hail Trump, hail our people, hail victory." Not "heil Hitler." Very, very different. They're not loyal to Hitler, they're loyal to me. And believe me, I'm no Hitler. And they salute with their right arms. By holding out their right arms. Which the Nazis did, but also the Boy Scouts. The Boy Scouts did it before the Nazis. As president, I rely on former Boy Scouts every single day. And so do the American people. It's amazing how many Boy Scouts we have at the highest level of our great government. Many of my top advisers in the White House were Scouts. And the guy who came up with the salute is the same guy who wrote our Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag. 100% American. Not a Nazi. Very much not a Nazi. Just a proud white man. It's very hard being a white man in America. I know, because that's my story. I'm one of the few who made it. My whole life really has been a "no" and I fought through it. It has not been easy for me. It has not been easy for me. I came into Manhattan, I started buying up properties, and I did great. I did a good job. But I was always told that would never work. And why is the word "Nazi" such a bad word anyway? Nobody really asks that, nobody asks why. #MAGA 🇺🇸