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posted by FatPhil on Thursday October 19 2017, @06:47PM   Printer-friendly
from the unsafe-at-any-typing-speed dept.

Donald Trump has threatened to shut down NBC and other American networks, saying that they peddle fake news.

"With all of the Fake News coming out of NBC and the Networks, at what point is it appropriate to challenge their License? Bad for country!" Mr Trump wrote in a tweet.

Mr Trump's tweet came in response to a story written by NBC, which said that Mr Trump had sought to increase America's nuclear arsenal tenfold after taking a look at a briefing slide that showed stead reduction of the US nuclear arsenal since the 1960s. The story cited three officials who were reportedly in the room when Mr Trump made the comments.

Source: Donald Trump threatens to shut down NBC and other TV news networks that criticise him


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by DannyB on Thursday October 19 2017, @07:13PM (8 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday October 19 2017, @07:13PM (#584767) Journal

    Trump happens to be correct;

    Trump happens to be crazy.

    broadcasters are licensed to operate in the public interest, blatant lying, inciting to riot and sedition really don't count do they?

    You are correct. Blatant lying and inciting to riot and sedition do not count. So why does FoxNews still have a license.

    Maybe there is nothing wrong with having a vewpoint, even if other people don't happen to like it.

    Can it be in the public interest to promote orderly non violent protests? Isn't that one way in which people are supposed to express their grievances? (No matter what party is protesting which other party.) When any party tries to suppress peaceful protest, that should send a strong message about the party suppressing peaceful protest.

    If there were one perfect political party, everyone would vote for it, and nobody would protest. So maybe protesters on all sides have some legitimate grievance?

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Phoenix666 on Thursday October 19 2017, @07:33PM (2 children)

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday October 19 2017, @07:33PM (#584794) Journal

    We already have laws that cover spreading falsehoods that have served the republic well for a long while now. They're called libel and slander. In other words, fake news can be prosecuted under those.

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by VLM on Thursday October 19 2017, @08:01PM

      by VLM (445) on Thursday October 19 2017, @08:01PM (#584823)

      I've done some research at lunch hour for fun and to summarize public figures practically cannot be defamed in a purely legal sense. Also damages are hard to specify leading to certain failure. Ironically being biased propaganda infotainment from the D party protects the news media, if they claimed to be honest and not entertainment satire opinions they'd have much more legal trouble. You'd have to reverse a lot of the legal system to use it against fake news.

      A lot of internet web 2.0 legal fun seems oriented around redefining who is a journalist and who is a public figure. Possibly in the future world there will be no more fake news or perhaps there will be no more libel and slander laws, or more likely we'll muddle thru.

      An example of the excessive freedom provided to the press would be the incredible expense and time of destroying Gawker. Its hard to imagine a company faker and more in need of destruction.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2017, @03:59PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2017, @03:59PM (#585272)

      What is this 'republic' you speak of? You actually and honestly think that the USA is a republic? How old are you, 18?

  • (Score: 2) by realDonaldTrump on Thursday October 19 2017, @07:56PM

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Thursday October 19 2017, @07:56PM (#584818) Homepage Journal

    You have some great networks. I must tell you, Fox has treated me fairly. Fox treated me fairly. They've treated me fairly. Hey, I'll let you know. You know what? Someday they might not treat me fairly, and I'll tell you about it, OK? But they've treated me fairly, and I don't mean all good. I get plenty of bad on Fox, too. But at least it's within reason. And Hannity. How good is Hannity, right? How good is Hannity? And he's a great guy, and he's an honest guy. And "Fox and Friends in the Morning" is the best show, and it's the absolute, most honest show, and it's the show I watch. They're very nervous to have me on live television, because I'm a person that wants to tell the truth. I'm an honest person, and what I'm saying, you know is EXACTLY right. Exactly, exactly! Not only does the media give a platform to hate groups, but the media turns a blind eye to the gang violence on our streets, the failures of our public schools, the destruction of our wealth at the hands of the terrible, terrible trade deals made by politicians that should've never been allowed to be politicians.

    And the unaccountable hostility against our incredible police, who work so hard at such a dangerous job. My administration is committed to the idea that all Americans have the right to live in safety, security and peace. We believe in the rule of law, because we know that freedom cannot exist if our people are not safe. And how safe are you at a Trump rally? It's a safe space. The most sacred duty of government is to protect the lives of its citizens, and that includes securing our borders, and enforcing our immigration laws. Creating a safe space for law-abiding Americans. #MAGA 🇺🇸

  • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by jmorris on Thursday October 19 2017, @08:26PM (3 children)

    by jmorris (4844) on Thursday October 19 2017, @08:26PM (#584847)

    Blatant lying and inciting to riot and sedition do not count.

    Citation needed. Because there isn't one and we both know it. False Equivalence Fallacy -will- be called out.

    So why does FoxNews still have a license.

    Because they don't need one, idiot. Try to keep up with the discussion. Fox News Channel is a cable channel, not a broadcaster. With a couple of rare exceptions where FNC provides material to broadcast on the FOX network such as Fox News Sunday and coverage of the political debates.

    Can it be in the public interest to promote orderly non violent protests?

    BLM and Antifa are violent, it is the basic nature of them. Their events don't accidentally become violent, they are planned as violent riots. Pretending they are something they aren't doesn't change reality.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2017, @08:46PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 19 2017, @08:46PM (#584870)

      The KKK just has "many sides" but BLM and Antifa are literally hitler. Yer dumb, but hey nothing new there!

    • (Score: 2) by DannyB on Friday October 20 2017, @03:28PM (1 child)

      by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday October 20 2017, @03:28PM (#585261) Journal

      So why does FoxNews still have a license.

      Because they don't need one, idiot. Try to keep up with the discussion.

      You probably missed elsewhere here where I had pointed out that NBC doesn't have a license.

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      • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by jmorris on Friday October 20 2017, @05:14PM

        by jmorris (4844) on Friday October 20 2017, @05:14PM (#585318)

        Yes but you are an idiot so I ignored that. The networks do own affiliates, ever noticed KNBC and WNBC? They aren't the only directly owned NBC stations, there used to be regulatory limits on how many stations a single entity could own which mandated the affiliate model but as the limits have been relaxed over the decades they have expanded direct ownership.

        But I mostly ignored you because that is a distraction anyway; the idea has always been to force affiliates into long protracted station licensing battles they wouldn't have the legal resources for so they would simply do what the NGOs and their hordes of activists and lawyers wanted. All they needed was to get the FCC regs reset to make it easier to wage that lawfare than it was to defend against it. Talk radio stations are almost all tiny low power affairs operating on the dregs of the ad market already because of the constant organized boycotts.