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posted by cmn32480 on Wednesday October 25 2017, @05:42PM   Printer-friendly
from the add-your-own-butter-and-salt dept.

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In an October 19 letter to corn-belt lawmakers, Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Administrator Scott Pruitt said that he won't seek any rollback to biofuel blending rules, according to Reuters.

The agency had been considering some changes to rules set by the Obama administration that ratchet up the amount of renewable biofuel that refineries must blend into the gas and diesel they sell. According to Bloomberg, the EPA had specifically been considering "a possible reduction in biodiesel requirements" as well as "a proposal to allow exported renewable fuel to count toward domestic quotas." In early October, the EPA asked for public comment on cutting biodiesel quotas.

The Bloomberg story cited unnamed sources who said President Trump personally directed Pruitt to back off any proposals that would relax biofuel quotas after pressure from lawmakers from corn-producing states like Iowa, Nebraska, and Illinois. Trump, who courted both fossil fuel interests and corn-belt states in his campaign, has had pressure from each side on this debate. Uncertainty surrounding the future of biofuel use during Trump's administration has caused volatility in biofuels markets for months, Reuters notes.

(The Bloomberg story also cites one unnamed "top EPA official" who said that Trump's directive to Pruitt didn't matter because Pruitt wasn't going to alter renewable fuel standards anyway.)

Source: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/epa-says-it-wont-cut-biofuel-quotas-after-corn-states-push-back/


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  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:15PM (30 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Thursday October 26 2017, @06:15PM (#587916) Journal

    Since voting keeps crooked politicians in office, are there any other ways to deal with those problems?

    Yes, by voting for different politicians. It's all up to the voter. The choice is simple.

    --
    La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2017, @07:26PM (29 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday October 26 2017, @07:26PM (#587955)

    It's all up to the voter. The choice is simple.

    I... see. So when you voted, you voted for crooked politicians? Because if you claim that you didn't vote for crooked politicians, you've just demonstrated that voting isn't working for you.

    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday October 27 2017, @01:45AM (28 children)

      by fustakrakich (6150) on Friday October 27 2017, @01:45AM (#588088) Journal

      Wrong again...

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      La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 27 2017, @04:13AM (27 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 27 2017, @04:13AM (#588119)

        Which of your two claims is the right one? That voting is the way to get rid of crooked politicians, or that the reason we have crooked politicians is that people vote?

        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday October 27 2017, @04:29AM (26 children)

          by fustakrakich (6150) on Friday October 27 2017, @04:29AM (#588122) Journal

          the reason we have crooked politicians is that people vote for crooked politicians. That is their prerogative. Such is life.

          Keep trying, my friend, comprehension is at hand.

          --
          La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 27 2017, @09:46AM (25 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 27 2017, @09:46AM (#588177)

            You've just circled back around to "voting keeps crooked politicians in office" [soylentnews.org].

            Which approach keeps crooked politicians out of office? Voting? It can't be voting, as that keeps crooked politicians in office.

            • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday October 27 2017, @04:02PM (24 children)

              by fustakrakich (6150) on Friday October 27 2017, @04:02PM (#588268) Journal

              *sigh* you're still misreading, must be trolling actually. Nobody can seriously be this obtuse.

              Voting doesn't keep crooked politicians in office, voters do that, by choice. Talk to them.

              --
              La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 27 2017, @04:18PM (23 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 27 2017, @04:18PM (#588283)

                Voting doesn't keep crooked politicians in office, voters do that

                And what is it that voters do...?

                And when do you expect voting voters to turn this ship around? For one small example, we've gone from a tax on a single beverage in 1791, to today's taxes that eat no less than 50% of ALL a worker's production (arguably 88% after "costs of compliance" are factored in). When is this vote-thing or vote-ers going to make things better rather than incredibly worse? What if someone doesn't feel like waiting another two hundred and twenty-six years for someone else (i.e. voting) to start fixing problems?

                • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday October 27 2017, @04:31PM (22 children)

                  by fustakrakich (6150) on Friday October 27 2017, @04:31PM (#588292) Journal

                  And when do you expect voting voters to turn this ship around?

                  If and when they want. It's up to them. The choice is still theirs. There is no other solution.

                  --
                  La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 27 2017, @04:36PM (21 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 27 2017, @04:36PM (#588294)

                    If and when they want. It's up to them. The choice is still theirs.

                    Sounds like you're enjoying blaming the victims.

                    There is no other solution.

                    Wow, really? Do you work for the government?

                    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday October 27 2017, @04:40PM (20 children)

                      by fustakrakich (6150) on Friday October 27 2017, @04:40PM (#588295) Journal

                      Sounds like you're enjoying blaming the victims.

                      No, it's you playing the classic victim card. Learned helplessness. A self built prison.

                      --
                      La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 27 2017, @05:02PM (19 children)

                        by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 27 2017, @05:02PM (#588309)

                        That's quite an assumption you've made, and incorrect, as I'm already doing things other than voting to address the socio-political problems I see.

                        You are the one stuck in the "vote or nothin'" prison, blind to the results of its 200+ year track record of failure: "Oh well, I voted. Nothin' else I can do." What was that about "projection" [soylentnews.org]?

                        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Friday October 27 2017, @10:55PM (18 children)

                          by fustakrakich (6150) on Friday October 27 2017, @10:55PM (#588459) Journal

                          You are the one stuck in the "vote or nothin'" prison

                          That is your thought, not mine. And of course you offer nothing better.

                          --
                          La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 28 2017, @09:42AM (17 children)

                            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 28 2017, @09:42AM (#588621)

                            [the "vote or nothin'" prison] is your thought, not mine.

                            No, it is your thought [soylentnews.org].

                            And of course you offer nothing better.

                            One step at a time, please. Voting's effectiveness or lack thereof does not change in regards to there being or not being better solutions. Truth be told, however, I've previously told you of several means to address socio-political problems. We can revisit those once you are able to question your own words that you wrote in this very thread about there being no other solution than voting. [soylentnews.org]

                            • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 28 2017, @04:14PM (16 children)

                              by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday October 28 2017, @04:14PM (#588707) Journal

                              The voters determine the effectiveness of voting. I never said anything to the contrary. You still misread everything so far. That is the only issue here.

                              --
                              La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 28 2017, @05:32PM (15 children)

                                by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 28 2017, @05:32PM (#588729)

                                Round and round we go: so tell me, again, when do you expect voting voters to work at bringing the criminality in government to a halt? It's been on a tear for the last 200+ years - at which point do you expect a change and why? Because until that point, voting voters aren't a solution - they're a problem.

                                • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 28 2017, @07:49PM (14 children)

                                  by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday October 28 2017, @07:49PM (#588767) Journal

                                  voters aren't a solution - they're a problem.

                                  Nope, they're both. Just like that guy's cat...

                                  So, cough it up, who/what else is there? You are the one in the circle [youtube.com]

                                  --
                                  La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 28 2017, @08:02PM (13 children)

                                    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 28 2017, @08:02PM (#588775)

                                    Nope, they're both. Just like that guy's cat...

                                    You made the claim, now back it up: "that guy's" box has been open for 200+ years, and the cat inside has long since turned to dust. At which point during that process did voting voters reduce criminality in government?

                                    So, cough it up, who/what else is there?

                                    Wait, what? Why? As long as you keep insisting that there's only your one "voting voters" "there is no other solution" solution, why in the world would you be interested in anything else?

                                    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 28 2017, @08:28PM (12 children)

                                      by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday October 28 2017, @08:28PM (#588783) Journal

                                      :-) You are the definition of obtuse. Thanks for the laughs...

                                      --
                                      La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 28 2017, @08:37PM (10 children)

                                        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 28 2017, @08:37PM (#588789)

                                        Unsurprising. When directly challenged, you immediately give up. Just one post after you insinuate I would die from exhaustion [soylentnews.org], you cut and run when you are apparently unable to come up with even a token example of evidence to support your claim that "voting works and is the only solution" to get rid of crooks in government.

                                        Have fun voting. I'm sure it'll start working sometime over the next 200 years or so...

                                        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Saturday October 28 2017, @09:17PM (9 children)

                                          by fustakrakich (6150) on Saturday October 28 2017, @09:17PM (#588800) Journal

                                          :-) Well, you have fun protesting, complaining, or whatever it is you do... Wake us up when you have something better and more effective, you know, lottery, conscription, I'm open to any old thing. Just name it..

                                          --
                                          La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                                          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 28 2017, @09:46PM (8 children)

                                            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 28 2017, @09:46PM (#588811)

                                            No, I'm not going to repeat myself regarding other options so long as you continue to publicly advocate, without evidence, a failed approach of voting voters to keep government from doing illegal things. You're not intellectually ready for another step down this path until you can critically and honestly examine your own premises.

                                            • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday October 29 2017, @01:52AM (7 children)

                                              by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday October 29 2017, @01:52AM (#588871) Journal

                                              Eh, there ya go, you're just trolling...

                                              --
                                              La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                                              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 29 2017, @09:44AM (6 children)

                                                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 29 2017, @09:44AM (#588974)

                                                Deflection is not intellectually honest, nor does it answer the question of when you expect your "only solution" of voting voters to get rid of criminality in government, since it hasn't been working over the last 200+ years. When you can either answer the question, or admit that you CANNOT answer and therefore are ready to examine your premises and discard any that do not hold up to scrutiny, we can start moving past this point.

                                                • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday October 29 2017, @04:36PM (5 children)

                                                  by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday October 29 2017, @04:36PM (#589090) Journal

                                                  I answered everything you asked. Intellectual honesty is not your forte, you have yet to show any.

                                                  --
                                                  La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                                                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 29 2017, @05:59PM (4 children)

                                                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 29 2017, @05:59PM (#589144)

                                                    I answered everything you asked.

                                                    And now you resort to blatant lying. A vapid response that has no bearing on the question does not equate to answering the question (e.g. "you're obtuse", "you're trolling", "no I didn't say that (even though I said that just a post or two ago)").

                                                    when do you expect voting voters to work at bringing the criminality in government to a halt? It's been on a tear for the last 200+ years - at which point do you expect a change and why?

                                                    As long as you keep insisting that there's only your one "voting voters" "there is no other solution" solution, why in the world would you be interested in anything else?

                                                    Do you work for the government?

                                                    Did you vote? (The implication is that the question is in regards to an official government poll or election in the USA.)

                                                    Those are just a sample of the unanswered questions I asked of you in this thread in response to your freely-offered commentary [soylentnews.org] on the cures and/or causes of criminality in government.

                                                    As for your accusation of dishonesty, I add another question to the pile of unanswereds: where and how was I intellectually dishonest? I'm the only AC responding to you in this thread thus far.

                                                    Though if you want to turn over a new leaf and start examining the topic of your own post at the top of this thread, an answer to just the first blockquoted question of mine will do.

                                                    • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday October 29 2017, @06:47PM (3 children)

                                                      by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday October 29 2017, @06:47PM (#589163) Journal

                                                      I left nothing unanswered. It's all there for you to see. You simply choose not to. I can't help that.

                                                      --
                                                      La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                                                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 29 2017, @07:15PM (2 children)

                                                        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 29 2017, @07:15PM (#589173)

                                                        The thread's right above you for you to read. You answered exactly ZERO of my blockquoted questions above. Here they are again:

                                                        when do you expect voting voters to work at bringing the criminality in government to a halt? It's been on a tear for the last 200+ years - at which point do you expect a change and why?

                                                        As long as you keep insisting that there's only your one "voting voters" "there is no other solution" solution, why in the world would you be interested in anything else?

                                                        Do you work for the government?

                                                        Did you vote? [The implication is that the question is in regards to an official government poll or election in the USA.]

                                                        The top question is the most relevant, though ALL are still unanswered and because of your claim to have "answered every question" ALL make you out to be a liar, easily proven by this same thread.

                                                        • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday October 29 2017, @07:30PM (1 child)

                                                          by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday October 29 2017, @07:30PM (#589179) Journal

                                                          Just checked. Everything has been answered. You rejected them. Not my problem. Toodles...

                                                          --
                                                          La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                                                          • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 29 2017, @08:50PM

                                                            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 29 2017, @08:50PM (#589203)

                                                            Again, you lie. Not a single one of those four questions has an answer (the "it's the voters" is a non-answer considering that the voters, as I had to explicitly detail for you, do the voting, and you completely ignored the "why" portion of the same question), and the bottom three have not even a pretense of an answer. Lies upon lies. All the more curious as to what station in life you fell into that tolerates such behavior to the extent that you can sustain your existence.

                                                            The top blockquoted unanswered question is still the most germane one.

                                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 28 2017, @11:28PM

                                        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 28 2017, @11:28PM (#588836)

                                        What was there to be obtuse about? You brought up Schrödinger's cat [wikipedia.org] first (a thought experiment in which a cat in a box is simultaneously both alive and dead), and the next post also referenced it.