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posted by takyon on Monday October 30 2017, @07:55PM   Printer-friendly
from the "I-didn't-even-know-the-guy" dept.

Manafort and Gates, were charged with "conspiracy against the United States," "conspiracy to launder money" and other offenses. The two were expected in court in Washington by the afternoon.

The Justice Department indictment on Manafort and Gates contains 12 counts: "conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading FARA statements, false statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts."

Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI.

The Manafort and Gates indictment unsealed on Monday morning does not make any reference to Russia's influence campaign against the presidential election, but it does allege extensive financial ties between Manafort and Gates and powerful Ukrainians.

The Papadopoulos materials, on the other hand, detail the many contacts investigators say he had with Russian-linked operatives. He met at least two people, a man and a woman, who the FBI says were working for the Russian government and had boasted to him about the help it could offer the Trump campaign against Clinton.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by DutchUncle on Tuesday October 31 2017, @02:01PM (1 child)

    by DutchUncle (5370) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @02:01PM (#590009)

    Have you considered that maybe, just maybe, the difficulty in taking down the Clintons is that they were SMART enough to get CLOSE to the line of illegality WITHOUT going over it? and that the multiple investigations have all been legitimate when they all come to the conclusion that their actions were shady and look bad but were not actionable? (that is, not definitive enough that a prosecutor thought a trial would get a conviction)

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by linkdude64 on Tuesday October 31 2017, @09:13PM

    by linkdude64 (5482) on Tuesday October 31 2017, @09:13PM (#590221)

    Have you considered that maybe, just maybe, the difficulty in taking down the Clintons is that they were SMART enough to get CLOSE to the line of illegality WITHOUT going over it?

    To be innocent in her email investigation:
    -Clinton could not recall a specific process for nominating a target for a drone strike.
    -Clinton did not recall using a flip phone during her time as SoS
    -She could not recall how any data stored on her Blackberry was destroyed
    -She could not recall why the State was unable to provide her with a secure Blackberry
    -She did not recall receiving any emails that she thought should not be on an unclassified system
    -She could not recall her specific conversations regarding the creation of the clintonemail.com domain
    -She could not recall receiving guidance regarding email policies outlined in the Foreign Affairs Manual
    -She could not recall any specific routine for deleting email from her account while SoS
    -Did not recall receiving an email about securing personal email accounts sent to all employees
    -Did not recall emails sent to her regarding requests that were made to upgrade the email server
    -Did not recall contacting Pagaliano for tech support
    -Did not recall who had access to her Blackberry and email accounts
    -Did not recall a specific FOIA request made
    -Did not recall who recommended she change her email address after it was publicly disclosed

    She HAS crossed the line, she just pleas the fifth for everything, and because again, the courts are fucking stacked in favor of the Ds they don't take her plea as indication of guilt or incompetence.