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posted by martyb on Wednesday November 01 2017, @11:58AM   Printer-friendly
from the American-game-of-FOOTball-which-is-played-using-your-HANDs dept.

Is ESPN done for?

ESPN pays $2 billion a year to the NFL for Monday Night Football and one NFL wild card playoff game. I've written for the past couple of years that as ESPN's business collapses that ESPN's decision on whether or not to bid to keep Monday Night Football would be the first big test of how rapidly that business is deteriorating.

What's a deteriorating business look like? In the month of October ESPN lost over 15,000 subscribers a day in October per the latest Nielson estimates.

15,000 a day!

Losing 15,000 subscribers per day is a lot, but is that because of the NFL anthem protests or because cord-cutting has finally reached a tipping point?


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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by bradley13 on Wednesday November 01 2017, @03:15PM (7 children)

    by bradley13 (3053) on Wednesday November 01 2017, @03:15PM (#590582) Homepage Journal

    "is that because of the NFL anthem protests or because cord-cutting has finally reached a tipping point"

    Yes. As in: both.

    First, more and more people stream this stuff online. Joe Sixpack sitting in front of the TV? As long as it's convenient, maybe, but not Joe's kids. And even Joe will stop, if he discovers that streaming is cheaper.

    Then, who watches professional sports? I can tell you that my family in flyover country contains a lot of sports fanatics. Lots are ex-military, all of them voted for Trump. Disrepect the flag? I doubt any of them are watching NFL just now. Stupid, entitled players biting the hand that feeds them.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Whoever on Wednesday November 01 2017, @03:30PM (2 children)

    by Whoever (4524) on Wednesday November 01 2017, @03:30PM (#590590) Journal

    Disrepect the flag? I doubt any of them are watching NFL just now. Stupid, entitled players biting the hand that feeds them.

    Stupid, greedy owners taking money for forcing the players to make a gesture towards the flag. None of this would have happened if the owners hadn't changed the long-standing tradition that the players stayed in their locker rooms until after the national anthem.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 01 2017, @05:16PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 01 2017, @05:16PM (#590668)

      Sorry, the players are paid actors. They are supposed to follow direction, put on the costume and perform. They can pontificate all they want between games, if the contract allows it. It's all pretty straightforward. As Trump would say, *They knew what they signed up for*

      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday November 01 2017, @08:34PM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday November 01 2017, @08:34PM (#590753) Journal

        They can pontificate all they want between games, if the contract allows it.

        They can do anything their contract doesn't disallow, including kneeling.

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by bradley13 on Wednesday November 01 2017, @03:31PM (3 children)

    by bradley13 (3053) on Wednesday November 01 2017, @03:31PM (#590591) Homepage Journal

    I have the same view of professional athletes and professional actors: They are both paid entertainment. I not only have zero interest in their political opinions, I have negative interest: I actively do not want to know. They are paid to entertain, and if they make a splash outside their paid role, it actually reduces their effectiveness as entertainers. For example, instead of seeing an actor's character in a movie, you will be aware of the actor themselves.

    Dance, monkey, dance!

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    • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Wednesday November 01 2017, @04:09PM (2 children)

      by Grishnakh (2831) on Wednesday November 01 2017, @04:09PM (#590618)

      You can make this claim, however look at how it's worked for Hollywood actors: many of them spout political opinions, and does it hurt their careers? No, it doesn't. So maybe you don't like it, but apparently many other people do, or at least don't care, and pay to watch their movies anyway.

      Just look at Tom Cruise: he's not political, but he spouts his nutty Scientology BS all the time, and has it killed his career? No, quite the contrary. Personally, I've avoided his recent sci-fi movies because of the factor you cite ("instead of seeing an actor's character in a movie, you will be aware of the actor themselves."), but the ticket sales for those movies speak for themselves.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 01 2017, @05:21PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 01 2017, @05:21PM (#590671)

        An actor spouting a political opinion is trying to impress an audience that consists of casting directors. The decision-makers in Hollywood do not often give roles to people who fail to signal that they are liberal. Public signaling is expected.

        • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Wednesday November 01 2017, @06:18PM

          by Grishnakh (2831) on Wednesday November 01 2017, @06:18PM (#590704)

          I have to disagree on this one, simply because if you look at all the actors in Hollywood, not all of them talk politics. There's tons of them where there's no record of them saying anything political publicly. And not all of them are liberals either; Clint Eastwood is pretty famous for being Republican (and talking to a chair at one convention).