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posted by martyb on Thursday November 02 2017, @01:57AM   Printer-friendly
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Hollywood films and science fiction literature fuel the belief that aliens are monster-like beings, who are very different to humans. But new research suggests that we could have more in common with our extra-terrestrial neighbours, than initially thought.

In a new study published in the International Journal of Astrobiology scientists from the University of Oxford show for the first time how evolutionary theory can be used to support alien predictions and better understand their behaviour. They show that aliens are potentially shaped by the same processes and mechanisms that shaped humans, such as natural selection.

The theory supports the argument that foreign life forms undergo natural selection, and are like us, evolving to be fitter and stronger over time.

[...] The paper also makes specific predictions about the biological make-up of complex aliens, and offers a degree of insight as to what they might look like.

[...] 'There are potentially hundreds of thousands of habitable planets in our galaxy alone. We can't say whether or not we're alone on Earth, but we have taken a small step forward in answering, if we're not alone, what our neighbours are like.'

http://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2017-10-31-aliens-may-be-more-us-we-think

[Also Covered By]: phys.org

Darwin's aliens (open, DOI: 10.1017/S1473550417000362) (DX)

Evolutionary exobiology: towards the qualitative assessment of biological potential on exoplanets (DOI: 10.1017/S1473550417000349) (DX)


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Grishnakh on Thursday November 02 2017, @02:56PM (1 child)

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Thursday November 02 2017, @02:56PM (#591057)

    As for isotopes, while we are shying away from the endeavor, we've been capable of manufacturing all kinds of isotopes for 60+ years.

    Using energy to manufacture isotopes to fuel reactors to create energy isn't going to work. We already can't figure out how to make fusion reactors energy-positive, even when the isotopes are a given. You could create the isotopes in the inner system using solar energy (like how they're naturally created on the Moon), and then transport them to the Oort cloud to fuel the reactors, but if you're going to do that, why not just stay in the inner system?

    And, as for what raw materials exist in the Oort, I doubt we have even a fraction of an idea of what we could find there.

    We haven't even bothered doing much serious investigation on mining raw materials here in the inner system or the asteroid belt. You want to skip all that and go way out to the Oort cloud, where there's probably far less total volume of material, and no apparent source of energy?

    As for environments, yeah - tropical beaches will be in short supply, but with your own sun(s) and lots of water if a tropical beach is the priority, one should be manufacturable in a lifetime or less, which is a heck of a lot faster than they happen on Earth.

    If you can manufacture artificial environments like that, why do you need to go to the Oort cloud? You can keep your space habitats here in the inner system.

    One HUGE advantage in the Oort is the lack of solar radiation, so radiation shielding is less of a requirement

    Except (IIRC) cosmic radiation is a much bigger deal in the Oort cloud because you don't have the Sun's magnetic field protecting you. You're going to need shielding wherever you go.

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  • (Score: 2) by JoeMerchant on Thursday November 02 2017, @03:19PM

    by JoeMerchant (3937) on Thursday November 02 2017, @03:19PM (#591077)

    So, I think you misunderstand me - I'm not saying we skip the inner system, I'm saying that's not where we ultimately end up.

    Of course we'll need to practice asteroid mining before we can venture beyond Neptune to do things there, but the better and better we get at living independent of Earth support, the more we will be able to go anywhere cold and make it warm. Much harder to go somewhere too hot and keep it cool.

    Cosmic radiation is a thing, and the Sun's field is a protection, but cosmic radiation is much less "pulsey" than solar storms - once you've got the cosmic radiation tamed to an acceptable level, you should be able to run much longer between worrisome events. I think the Apollo missions all had solar flare abort contingencies, and the probability of needing to do one was pretty high on a mission that just lasted a few days.

    The bigger picture of the Oort cloud is that it's more of a cosmic commodity, and if you're talking about what kind of advanced aliens you might encounter, odds are that they will be coming from the commodity resources, not rare and special rocks.

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