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posted by Fnord666 on Saturday November 04 2017, @12:34AM   Printer-friendly
from the executives,-not-level-bosses dept.

Bosses of the new Call of Duty game say they "touch on some really dark subject matter" in the new release.

The makers say creating a title based on a conflict that claimed about 60 million lives has been a challenge.

It's been 10 years since the Call of Duty franchise based a game during World War Two.

"In no way do you want to glorify violence, but at the same time you can't ignore it," says Sledgehammer Games co-founder Michael Condrey.

"We spent a lot of time working on the right balance."

[...] "It would be insincere not to touch on what was really happening," Michael explains.

"From the politics at the time, segregation among the allies, the role of women, to the Holocaust.

"By turning away from them we would not have brought the right level of awareness or be able to honour what was really happening.

Fine, but they better not cut the classic wise-cracking Brooklynite from the squad or Call of Duty and me are done.


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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Saturday November 04 2017, @12:57AM (14 children)

    by GreatAuntAnesthesia (3275) on Saturday November 04 2017, @12:57AM (#591964) Journal

    WWII media is popular and easy to write because it gives access to such unambiguously evil set of bad guys. People can indulge their violent impulses guilt free because Nazis deserve it! Of course now we have a counter narrative seeking to mitigate the evil of the third reich, So perhaps future games and films will have armies of pedophiles instead.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @01:03AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @01:03AM (#591969)

    Are they ordinary pedophiles or actual rapists?

  • (Score: 2, Informative) by idiot_king on Saturday November 04 2017, @02:23AM (5 children)

    by idiot_king (6587) on Saturday November 04 2017, @02:23AM (#592014)

    People can indulge their violent impulses guilt free because Nazis deserve it!

    ...they don't?

    Of course now we have a counter narrative seeking to mitigate the evil of the third reich

    ...so the Nazis were the good guys? Thanks for clarifying your biases.

    So perhaps future games and films will have armies of pedophiles instead.

    So you went from almost defending Nazis to defending pedophiles? What the hell is your argument even?

    • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @02:28AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @02:28AM (#592021)

      Stop getting triggered over words, you hypersensitive douchenozzle.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @03:06AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @03:06AM (#592039)

      You know, sometimes when people write words, they mean what they write, you don't have to try analyze it to find some hidden message. Glorifying violence against nazis is still glorifying violence.

    • (Score: 2) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Saturday November 04 2017, @09:50AM (2 children)

      by GreatAuntAnesthesia (3275) on Saturday November 04 2017, @09:50AM (#592123) Journal

      Find me a single word in what I wrote in defence of nazis or pedophiles. If you can't, apologise.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @02:15PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @02:15PM (#592163)

        Nazis ... have a ... narrative seeking to mitigate the evil of ... games and films ... of pedophiles

        tbh they probably do

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 05 2017, @12:54AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 05 2017, @12:54AM (#592323)

        Well, there was nothing in your post glorifying Mao. That's tantamount to the same thing.

        These days, anyone who isn't a Maoist is considered a Nazi.

  • (Score: 2) by crafoo on Saturday November 04 2017, @02:29AM (3 children)

    by crafoo (6639) on Saturday November 04 2017, @02:29AM (#592024)

    So unambiguously evil, yet we have so-called anti-fascists marching openly with hammer and cycle icons and paraphernalia. What's the joke? "Communism, always one murder away from utopia."

    It's difficult to understand the mental gymnastics required by a gaggle of red-faced children screaming, spraying people with spittle over hatred of Nazis while wearing a hammer and cycle t-shirt. Someone with time on their hands might actually crack a history book and see why that is.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @03:26AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @03:26AM (#592052)

      > It's difficult to understand the mental gymnastics required by a gaggle of red-faced children screaming, spraying people with spittle over hatred of Nazis while wearing a hammer and cycle t-shirt.

      I'm trying to work the mental gymnastics and sheer ignorance required to claim that one of the most succesful inventons of victorian capitalism, the cycle, is used as an icon by anti-nazis.

      .

    • (Score: 2) by r1348 on Saturday November 04 2017, @10:11AM

      by r1348 (5988) on Saturday November 04 2017, @10:11AM (#592126)

      It's hammer ans sickle. Sickle. Not cycle. You got it wrong, twice.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 05 2017, @01:01AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 05 2017, @01:01AM (#592325)

      In Mussolini's day, journalist Ennio Flaiano [infogalactic.com] wrote:

      In Italy, fascists divide themselves into two categories: fascists and antifascists.

      Still works today.

  • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Saturday November 04 2017, @03:02AM (2 children)

    by jmorris (4844) on Saturday November 04 2017, @03:02AM (#592037)

    I remember the original Castle Wolfenstein, the game that put iD games on the map. Nobody cared about killing Nazis, no bag limit on Nazis, but the usual suspects bitched about glorifying the killing all of the German Shepherds. Now I like doggies too, but seriously, OK to kill Nazis but not OK to kill their dogs? Until you could get a gun and accumulate a few rounds (from dead Nazis of course), those danged dogs were a threat.

    Let is hope there is never a bag limit on Nazis. Let us hope we can get to a time where the same can be said for Commies, so many people still want to excuse their crimes against humanity and they run up a far higher body count and were equally vile.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @07:49AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @07:49AM (#592098)

      Let is hope there is never a bag limit on Nazis. Let us hope we can get to a time where the same can be said for Commies, so many people still want to excuse their crimes against humanity and they run up a far higher body count and were equally vile.

      Maybe, but without the commies the allied forces wouldn't have been very successful against the Nazis. The largest error in WW2 was Hitler backstabbing the commies, now he didn't fight a war on one front, but two.

      As for crimes against humanity... does body count or the level being vile really matter? World is filled with factions and countries (large part of the Western countries included) doing crimes against humanity, most of them are just ignored.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @06:18PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 04 2017, @06:18PM (#592246)

        yes. just way too impatient. i think he should have stayed in the first few countries longer. just build up the war machine quietly. "don't mind us, we're fully satisfied with our reclamation of the Reich", etc. then, once you've gotten all your geese in a row, BLITZKRIEG!