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posted by mrpg on Sunday November 05 2017, @11:59PM   Printer-friendly
from the the-web-is-misinformation dept.

According to The Daily Beast, Jenna Abrams was not a real person at all, but was part of a Russian plot to turn Americans against themselves:

Her opinions about everything from manspreading on the subway to Rachel Dolezal to ballistic missiles still linger on news sites all over the web.

[...] Her account was the creation of employees at the Internet Research Agency, or the Russian government-funded "troll farm," in St. Petersburg.

[...] Abrams' pervasiveness in American news outlets shows just how much impact Russia's troll farm had on American discourse in the run-up to the 2016 election—and illustrates how Russian talking points can seep into American mainstream media without even a single dollar spent on advertising.

While the the [sic] typical image of a Russian troll may be a hastily put together Twitter account blaring out non-stop political messages, Abrams' account went to great lengths to simulate a real, American person who existed outside of Twitter fights and amplifying racist disinformation.

Her Twitter account was created back in 2014. She had a personal website, a Medium page, her own Gmail, and even a GoFundMe page.

takyon: More Russia stuff follows:

SAN FRANCISCO — As many as 126 million people — or one-third the U.S. population — may have seen material posted by a Russian troll farm under fake Facebook identities between 2015 and 2017, according to planned testimony by Facebook's general counsel obtained by USA TODAY.

Source: USA Today

The weekend after Trump's election, thousands of people attended a left-wing anti-Trump protest in New York City that was secretly organized by Russian operatives, ads released by the House Intelligence Committee revealed.

More than 16,000 people RSVP'd on Facebook for the protest, which was titled: "Trump is NOT my President. March against Trump."

Also at Politico.

Finally, Facebook will require political advertisers to disclose their identities.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Pav on Monday November 06 2017, @12:13AM (17 children)

    by Pav (114) on Monday November 06 2017, @12:13AM (#592714)

    A couple of hundred thousand dollars worth of Facebook ads, and a troll farm in St Petersburg defeated Hillary Clintons $1 billion (twice what Trump raised), and David Brocks "Correct The Record" troll farm. Russian oligarchy must be MUCH more capital efficient than American oligarchy.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Pav on Monday November 06 2017, @12:20AM (9 children)

    by Pav (114) on Monday November 06 2017, @12:20AM (#592715)

    BTW, half of the $200,000 apparently was spent AFTER the election, and many ads were supportive of Clinton. They must have been cleverly trying to decieve people into believing it was just random Russians supporting both sides! BTW, that makes their effort at least twice as capital efficent!

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Whoever on Monday November 06 2017, @12:39AM (6 children)

      by Whoever (4524) on Monday November 06 2017, @12:39AM (#592722) Journal

      No, they are trying to destabilize the USA. First by getting Trump elected, then attempting to legitimize his presidency.

      They don't really care who is President as long as the effect is to divide people and make the USA less powerful.

      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Pav on Monday November 06 2017, @02:29AM (3 children)

        by Pav (114) on Monday November 06 2017, @02:29AM (#592772)

        Repetition (repetition, repetition, repetition) is the oldest mind control trick known to man. Just because things are repeated so often (without evidence) doesn't make them true - even if a significant portion of the population has taken it on. I'm sure the Russians had a preference for who they wanted, as did many countries. The major allegations have turned out to be baseless though (hacking and leaks), and the recent pivot into Facebook and Twitter ads (I repeat, Facebook and Twitter ads!!!) is just pathetic. The fact is though that a neoliberal warmonger who unabashedly wore that on her slieve was never going to mobilise traditional Dem voters. Barack Obama only did because he lied. No "Hope and Change", and when that became obvious he lost Congress.

        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @04:11AM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @04:11AM (#592828)

          You are willfully misinterpreting arguments. Russian "hacking" was very early focused on influencing via social media, and actual voting machine being breached or tallies being changed was never claimed anywhere by anyone that I recall.

          If you aren't being purposely obstinate, maybe it's time to broaden your news sources.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @03:09PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @03:09PM (#593074)

            It was not claimed directly, but consistently implied.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @08:11PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @08:11PM (#593279)

              It was not claimed directly, but consistently implied.

              'Cause that is how the Lizard People roll! That is what they want you to think, or just be implicated of! I tell you, it is a vast ctl-left conspiracy out there, and they are putting stuff in our water (flouride) and in our air (con-trails!!!1!), and in our food (kale!).

      • (Score: 2, Interesting) by khallow on Monday November 06 2017, @03:36AM (1 child)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 06 2017, @03:36AM (#592803) Journal

        No, they are trying to destabilize the USA. First by getting Trump elected, then attempting to delegitimize his presidency.

        FTFY. I think the relatively high visibility of these efforts after the fact is part of the scheme.

    • (Score: 1, Redundant) by Bot on Monday November 06 2017, @12:42AM (1 child)

      by Bot (3902) on Monday November 06 2017, @12:42AM (#592726) Journal

      Progressives have always been linked to the URSS. Putin is a product of URSS. As long as Americans are divided on who is going to which bathroom, Putin is happy. Trust me, I am a bot.

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      • (Score: 2) by driverless on Monday November 06 2017, @07:30AM

        by driverless (4770) on Monday November 06 2017, @07:30AM (#592920)

        Putin is a product of URSS.

        Vladimir Pootin' is a product of ARSS, not URSS.

  • (Score: 3, Touché) by Runaway1956 on Monday November 06 2017, @12:23AM (3 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 06 2017, @12:23AM (#592716) Journal

    "Her opinions about everything from manspreading on the subway to Rachel Dolezal to ballistic missiles still linger on news sites all over the web."

    Yes, it will be quite a long time before Hillary's effects are forgotten.

    Oh - this article isn't about Hillary? It's not about Trump either? Oh, it's a RUSSIAN! Hmmm, if that's her real photo, Jenna is a hell of a lot better looking than either Hillary or Trump. Probably smarter too. Why didn't she just run for president?

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @12:41AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @12:41AM (#592725)

      Oh - this article isn't about Hillary? It's not about Trump either?

      It's about American culture.

      Why didn't she just run for president?

      Q.E.D.

    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @02:10PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @02:10PM (#593033)

      Wait, we are trying to build AI, no scratch that, we are trying to replace EVERYTHING with AI and then we realize that Jena Abrams (or what her name was) is a bot and somehow this offends us? I mean, if what she said made sense to the people who followed her tweets, who cares if it was from a real person or a bot?

      Or we mind if it is a bot as long as it doesn't fit Google's or Amazon's agenda on AI?

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday November 06 2017, @02:37PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 06 2017, @02:37PM (#593050) Journal

        Touche. $action is good if we do it, but bad if $actor does it. And, no one seems to see the hypocrisy. It's a lot like the nuclear arms race, when nukes were good for us, but evil if anyone else had them. (In this case, "nukes" includes weapons, reactors, medical gear, or anything else that could set a geiger counter to spazzing out.)

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Ethanol-fueled on Monday November 06 2017, @12:25AM (1 child)

    by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Monday November 06 2017, @12:25AM (#592718) Homepage

    Or the fact that most people aren't idiots, be they Americans or not, whether or not their influence be Russian of origin or not, telling them that they are morons will not stop them.

    Zuckerjew is an idiot no matter how well his organization stands. Only fools trusted him and his organization for relying upon the shit they spouted as truths.

    • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @02:23AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @02:23AM (#592771)

      Only fools dumb fucks trusted him and his organization ...

      FTFY.

  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Monday November 06 2017, @12:59AM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday November 06 2017, @12:59AM (#592735) Journal

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