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posted by takyon on Monday November 06 2017, @02:25AM   Printer-friendly
At Least 26 Dead After Gunman Opens Fire In South Texas Church

Federal authorities are responding to a shooting at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, a small community southeast of San Antonio.

In a press conference Sunday night, an official from the Texas Department of Public Safety described the scene: Around 11:20 am, the suspect, dressed in black, approached the church and began firing an assault rifle. He then entered the church and continued firing.

Gov. Greg Abbott confirmed that at least 26 people were killed. A Texas Department of Public Safety official said the ages of the victims ranged from 5 to 72 years old. The AP reports that the pastor's 14-year-old daughter is among the dead.

The Department of Public Safety confirmed to NPR that at least 20 others were wounded. A DPS official said in the press conference that the gunman was confronted by an armed civilian outside of the church.

The shooter, who was found dead in neighboring Guadalupe County, has been identified as Devin Kelley, 26, a former Air Force member.

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @03:34AM (13 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @03:34AM (#592802)

    We should definitely ban horses. Use for thousands of years in every bloody war.

    Name a use for guns that doesn't involve killing.

  • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @03:47AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @03:47AM (#592810)

    Target practice! To improve your skills at... Oh... Nevermind...

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @03:50AM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @03:50AM (#592814)

    15 Olympic shooting competitions [olympic.org]

    Tens of thousands of non-Olympic competitive shooting events every year don't involve killing anything or anybody.

    Next!

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @04:07AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @04:07AM (#592823)

      How many of those Olympic events use semiautomatic rifles with 40+ round clips?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @04:41AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @04:41AM (#592855)

        None, hence why no one watches them.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @03:51AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @03:51AM (#592815)

    There's a whole bunch:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_sports#Gun_shooting_sports [wikipedia.org]

    Are you a straw man or are you going to move the goalposts?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @03:56AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @03:56AM (#592818)

    Killing is reason enough. Some people need killing. Sorry, but this is how it goes. If you break into my grandma's house, she doesn't need to make it a "fair fight" and go at you with her fists.

    But just for fun, here is a non-killing use:

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/03/eagle-eyed-army-sharpshooter-frees-eagle-hanging-upside-down-in-tree.html [foxnews.com]

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/03/army-vet-rescues-bald-eagle-dangling-rope-75-foot-tree-mowing-branches-rifle-daily-mail/ [breitbart.com]

    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @04:05AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @04:05AM (#592822)

      Fox News AND Breitbart! Well, that settles it, then.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @04:33AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @04:33AM (#592848)

        It's also at huffingtonpost but I prefer not to support such a biased site. I'll reconsider if they ever decide to support (or merely tolerate!) President Trump's effort to make America great again.

        Run the huffingtonpost news headlines through something that swaps the words "white" and "black". The result looks like Stormfront or Daily Stormer! This is not acceptable.

        • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday November 06 2017, @04:43AM

          by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday November 06 2017, @04:43AM (#592857) Journal

          I agree huffpo has grown particularly pitiful. I used to read it and Drudge side by side daily to get a walk down both sides of the echo chamber, but nowadays it's a 5 second scan to see if they have posted anything but drivel. BBC and Der Spiegel are the only real news sources anymore. Everything else in the American media are trying to re-litigate the last presidential election.

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        • (Score: 3, Funny) by c0lo on Monday November 06 2017, @04:45AM

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 06 2017, @04:45AM (#592858) Journal

          Run the huffingtonpost news headlines through something that swaps the words "white" and "black". The result looks like Stormfront or Daily Stormer! This is not acceptable.

          Indeed, this is plagiarism. No, worse that that, it's a copyright crime!!!

          (grin)

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    • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @04:10AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 06 2017, @04:10AM (#592827)

      We Americans destroy the environment like we're paid by the acre to do it, but saving one (albeit majestic) bird justifies putting semiautomatic weapons in the hands of criminals? Your argument is not convincing.

  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday November 06 2017, @04:02AM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday November 06 2017, @04:02AM (#592821) Journal

    Hunting. Yes, that's killing, smart guy, but not humans. And many families I grew up with in the West relied on their kills for their meat all year. Also, guns are for protection. If you live in rural areas with bears and other large predators, bet you'd feel better knowing you had a way to fend them off. Then there are the human predators you can protect yourself from. People who have been blessed to grow up in gentler urban contexts can scarcely believe this now, but not too long ago many safe places were warzones.

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    Washington DC delenda est.
  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday November 06 2017, @06:00AM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday November 06 2017, @06:00AM (#592884) Journal

    Name a use for guns that doesn't involve killing.

    Self-defense. Most applications of guns in self-defense don't involve killing, say, if I scare off an intruder by brandishing a fire arm.