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posted by martyb on Monday November 06 2017, @11:54PM   Printer-friendly
from the Retaliation?-or-Post-hoc-ergo-propter-hoc? dept.

DNAinfo and Gothamist Are Shut Down After Vote to Unionize

A week ago, reporters and editors in the combined newsroom of DNAinfo and Gothamist, two of New York City's leading digital purveyors of local news, celebrated victory in their vote to join a union.

On Thursday, they lost their jobs, as Joe Ricketts, the billionaire founder of TD Ameritrade who owned the sites, shut them down.

At 5 p.m., a post went up on the sites from Mr. Ricketts announcing the decision. He praised them for reporting "tens of thousands of stories that have informed, impacted and inspired millions of people." But he added, "DNAinfo is, at the end of the day, a business, and businesses need to be economically successful if they are to endure."

[...] in the financially daunting era of digital journalism, there has been no tougher nut to crack than making local news profitable, a lesson Mr. Ricketts, who lost money every month of DNAinfo's existence, is just the latest to learn. In New York City, the nation's biggest media market, established organizations such as The Village Voice, The Wall Street Journal and The Daily News have slashed staff or withdrawn from street-level reporting. The Voice stopped publishing its print edition in September.

What about The Daily Planet and Gotham Globe?

Gothamist's NY Writing Staff Votes to Unionize; Owner Shutters All *ist Sites

Deadspin reports:

Joe Ricketts, TD Ameritrade founder, billionaire, and father of Chicago Cubs chairman Tom Ricketts, shut down the local news network of DNAinfo and Gothamist sites today, a week after the writers voted to unionize.

[...] With the sites' articles functionally locked, the reported 115 newly jobless writers now have no clips [to which they can refer potential employers] as they search for work.

Deadspin has scathing comments about Ricketts's explanation for his action.

The Los Angeles Daily News reports:

Angelenos hoping to read the latest local reporting from LAist.com [on November 2] were instead greeted by a letter from the news site's CEO, announcing he had shuttered the parent media company and all of its local news sites.

[...] [Ricketts bought news company DNAinfo in 2010 and, in March 2017, DNAinfo] purchased Gothamist, which ran news sites in New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco, and Washington D.C.

[...] Julia Wick, editor-in-chief at LAist, [...] said she and her Los Angeles team supported the New York staff's decision to unionize. Originally, she said, all five Gothamist sites planned to join the union, but the Chicago newsroom dropped out, ending the collective effort.


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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday November 07 2017, @02:41PM (11 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 07 2017, @02:41PM (#593651) Journal

    If there is a model those sites can make money. one can expect the sites to respawn (perhaps under another name).

    You telling me that he can block the former employees if they want to revive the site under a different name? (so that this story may actually have a continuation)?

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Tuesday November 07 2017, @08:12PM (10 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 07 2017, @08:12PM (#593796) Journal

    Your understanding of terms. Respawn and revive doesn't necessary mean "take the older content".
    For a news site, the readers are mostly interested in the news, it's not literature.

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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday November 07 2017, @09:01PM (9 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 07 2017, @09:01PM (#593813) Journal

      Respawn and revive doesn't necessary mean "take the older content" [and IP!].

      They merely heavily imply it when used in conjunction with "the" and "those" "website(s)". After all, a website is not a business model. It is at least a concrete implementation.

      The reason I'm bothering with this silly thread in the first place is your dismissal of several repliers who pointed out the legitimate problem with what you said. Then you coyly doubled down [soylentnews.org], repeating the erroneous terminology (also excise "you telling me" from your vocabulary, as in your linked post, that is too often a segue into straw men arguments). If there's confusion over something said, then get the wood out of your ass and just politely correct them. Not say the same thing again and then mischaracterize the previous poster's concerns.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Tuesday November 07 2017, @09:12PM (8 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 07 2017, @09:12PM (#593815) Journal

        No, I didn't

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        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Tuesday November 07 2017, @09:25PM (7 children)

          by aristarchus (2645) on Tuesday November 07 2017, @09:25PM (#593824) Journal

          It is little use to argue with the khallow. He keeps his own dictionary in his head, and edits it on the fly as he sees fit. At least he wasn't triggered like TMB and jmorris the Lesser. Wait a minute, unless he was, and this is how it manifests! As per best practices, quarantine is in order.

          • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday November 07 2017, @09:29PM (4 children)

            by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Tuesday November 07 2017, @09:29PM (#593826) Homepage Journal

            I think you need to look up the meaning of "triggered". I know it's hard to keep up with all these newfangled words but you need to do so if you're going to use them.

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            • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Tuesday November 07 2017, @11:01PM (3 children)

              by aristarchus (2645) on Tuesday November 07 2017, @11:01PM (#593864) Journal

              One consistent feature of being "triggered" is that the subject does not realize they have been triggered, and assumes that their behavior is not caused by the triggering event. They may even try to change the definition of "triggered" in order to deny that it is happening to them. We are all here for you, Buzzard. How's the fishing? What's your favorite bass plug?

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 08 2017, @02:33PM (2 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 08 2017, @02:33PM (#594049)

                One consistent feature of being "triggered" is that the subject does not realize they have been triggered, and assumes that their behavior is not caused by the triggering event. They may even try to change the definition of "triggered" in order to deny that it is happening to them.

                Smells like a kafkatrap [ibiblio.org].

                • (Score: 3, Interesting) by aristarchus on Wednesday November 08 2017, @10:28PM (1 child)

                  by aristarchus (2645) on Wednesday November 08 2017, @10:28PM (#594278) Journal

                  No, what you smell is ESR. Kafka in "The Trial" was much smarter than ESR.

                  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Thursday November 09 2017, @06:39AM

                    by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday November 09 2017, @06:39AM (#594469) Journal

                    OK, I am down by three. Stupid alt-right mudder folackers. Time for retribution, y'all. Now, if you are not among the regular down-modders of aristarchus, this is the point in proceedings where you should fess up to that. Otherwise, I will have to mod you into khallow territory. And it is not must me, it is all the sane, progressive, rational, realistic, non-racist, non-misogynist, not-artichoke hating soylentils that mod you who mod me down, down.

                    Now, the TMB may bitch and moan, as is his wont, but not necessarily in that order, since he allegedly served in a US military, that I down mod more than up. But put quite simply, it is because there is just so much here on SoylentNews that needs to be modded down, and way down, since we accept all and sundry, like MikeeUSA, well known pedophile, or jmorris, well known, well, maybe not well known, but he is definitely not someone you would encounter outside an insane asylum or a Vienna Circle think tank (pro tip: same thing). And khallow, the Soylentil in a class unto himself. He needs to be modded down every so often, just in a futile attempt to jump start rational thinking in his brain. So far, no success.

                    But to reiterate the point (that means, "repeat", for you alt-right, and conservatives), I will be downmodding with a vengeance tonight, and praise be to the Holy Mighty Buzzard for granting us an abundance of mod points. TMB, in your name, let it be accomplished!

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday November 07 2017, @09:30PM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday November 07 2017, @09:30PM (#593827) Journal

            He keeps his own dictionary in his head, and edits it on the fly as he sees fit.

            Actually, I keep it here [oxforddictionaries.com].

          • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 07 2017, @10:07PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 07 2017, @10:07PM (#593839)

            Arguing? Doesn't arguing require a conclusion that needs to be demonstrated or refuting, a point to be made, hopefully a meaningful point?