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from the anthropogenic-population-change dept.
We have a recent report by the US government that climate change is almost certainly caused by humans. However, we don't have the same rigor in gun death statistics; instead policy debate can rely only on FBI crime statistics which aren't directly comparable year-over-year due to changing measurement methodology (see "Caution to users").
This is because the NRA put pressure on the CDC through a Republican Congress to halt this research, under the logic that it promotes the cause of gun control.
But how likely is it that this is intentional, to use the US Second Amendment as an ongoing lightning rod for public attention (in a "bread and circuses" sense) while political business continues as usual on the back end (e.g. Paradise Papers)? Obama and a Democratic congress had the opportunity to restart this, which would presumably be just as "common sense" as the actual reforms they have been promoting on this issue, since whoever was actually supported by the facts would presumably have a motivation to set the program back in motion to improve support for their proposals.
(Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @02:56AM (6 children)
You think NRA and hardcore gun-riight people will be persuaded by some statistical technicality? This is about a religion, fool. It's like trying to reason with ISIS.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @03:09AM
Isn't ISIS a religion?
(Score: 2) by jmorris on Thursday November 09 2017, @03:29AM (4 children)
Actually, I agree. America, do you speak it? Do you believe?
For those who do not, what DO you believe?
(Score: 5, Insightful) by MostCynical on Thursday November 09 2017, @03:36AM (3 children)
Reason
Justice
Democracy
Welfare State (see "justice")
Love
Freedom (from fear, from opression, from idiots* with guns)
*only Americans seem to believe Guns Are The Only Way
Not a complete list, just a few higlights.
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 0, Troll) by jmorris on Thursday November 09 2017, @03:44AM (2 children)
In other words you aren't an American. You are a NewSpeaking Progressive.
(Score: 2) by MostCynical on Thursday November 09 2017, @05:26AM
No, not American.
Progressive, yes.
"NewSpeak".. no, I'm not a Winnie the Pooh; I don't want to have words changed to mean other things.
I do however think "different" does not automatically make someone "enemy"; us-or-them, red-v-blue, America-vs-the-world does make it hard to find compromise (is that an evil, libtard word?)
"I guess once you start doubting, there's no end to it." -Batou, Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(Score: 2, Informative) by aristarchus on Thursday November 09 2017, @07:49AM
Say that to my face, jmorris, you worm! I will challenge you to meet me at dawn, on the field of honor, if you have the balls to do so. And then I will dispatch you, with a single shot, since you are a coward and a poultroon, an ideologue with no conviction or honor. So you should be more careful who you accuse of not being American, since most progressives are better shots (case in point: who needs a AR-15 knockoff with a thirty round mag, and a bump-stock? Real Americans do quite well with a Brown Bess, a Committee of Safety Musket, a Springfield, or an M-1 Garand, and have no use for these piddling .22 caliber toy solider guns that seem to be so good for killing children.
So, send your seconds to meet my seconds, according the the protocols of the Irish convention. [wikipedia.org] I will insist on no less that .68 caliber, smooth-bore, with full barrel length inspection!!. And no more that 60 grains of FF powder. Twenty yards. I am deadly at that distance. I await news from my seconds of the word your seconds. I only hope your seconds are men of honor, and more trustworthy than a lying snake like yourself!
(Just for your information, in the History of American Political duels, progressives prevailed almost 69% of the time! Yes, it is true. So, jmorris, backing out in the face of counter-prevailing is not a bad thing. It is only the mark of coward and lying two-faced knave. What say you, jmorris?)