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from the anthropogenic-population-change dept.
We have a recent report by the US government that climate change is almost certainly caused by humans. However, we don't have the same rigor in gun death statistics; instead policy debate can rely only on FBI crime statistics which aren't directly comparable year-over-year due to changing measurement methodology (see "Caution to users").
This is because the NRA put pressure on the CDC through a Republican Congress to halt this research, under the logic that it promotes the cause of gun control.
But how likely is it that this is intentional, to use the US Second Amendment as an ongoing lightning rod for public attention (in a "bread and circuses" sense) while political business continues as usual on the back end (e.g. Paradise Papers)? Obama and a Democratic congress had the opportunity to restart this, which would presumably be just as "common sense" as the actual reforms they have been promoting on this issue, since whoever was actually supported by the facts would presumably have a motivation to set the program back in motion to improve support for their proposals.
(Score: 0, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @03:08AM (8 children)
Guns will always be around and the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Cops can't be everywhere and gun zones are ineffective.
OH yeah... criminals don't follow the law and will get them anyway, who knew?
Sack up and be men. We do not live in a safe oven mitten world. Buy a gun, use it responsibly and take ownership of your lives.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by jimtheowl on Thursday November 09 2017, @04:28AM (7 children)
The truth lies in between, but just look at how the US compares with Canada.
Your position is about gun sales justified by fear and insecurity, not protection.
For one thing, the so called 'bad guy' would not so easily be so deadly if there were no guns around when he has an emotional fit.
That said, you are right about one thing. Responsible people should be allowed to buy a gun.
But that is not what is going on right now. Open your eyes, but more importantly, open your mind.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @05:38AM (1 child)
Don't even have to look as far as Canada. Check the gun deaths/100000 population by US state, then compare with the handful of states that have some limited gun regulations beyond the national rules. All those states are at the low end of the ranking (safer). Wikipedia has the data.
(Score: 2) by mhajicek on Thursday November 09 2017, @06:55AM
Now look at "violent crime" and "homicide" rather than fixating on guns.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 3, Insightful) by mhajicek on Thursday November 09 2017, @06:53AM (4 children)
What would it take for there to be no guns? Besides going door to door and taking them by force, murdering anyone who won't comply, you'd also have to kill anyone and everyone with any machining or manufacturing ability. In every foreign nation with strict gun control there is a booming black market for guns. Some are hand made with little more than a drill and a file. You can make one in less than half an hour from common hardware store parts.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 3, Informative) by c0lo on Thursday November 09 2017, @08:07AM (2 children)
Citation needed.
(97% of the cases with no citation to a statistic are bullshit! grin).
Stop spewing phrases without backing them up with data.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by mhajicek on Thursday November 09 2017, @08:19AM (1 child)
You need me to teach you how to use Google?
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 4, Informative) by c0lo on Thursday November 09 2017, @08:55AM
Your claim, your duty to provide evidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by jimtheowl on Thursday November 09 2017, @07:27PM
Are you saying that since i its not possible to do one impossible thing, it is not possible to do anything?