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There Are No Comparable Statistics On Gun Violence

posted by Fnord666 on Thursday November 09 2017, @01:44AM   Printer-friendly
from the anthropogenic-population-change dept.

etherscythe writes:

We have a recent report by the US government that climate change is almost certainly caused by humans. However, we don't have the same rigor in gun death statistics; instead policy debate can rely only on FBI crime statistics which aren't directly comparable year-over-year due to changing measurement methodology (see "Caution to users").

This is because the NRA put pressure on the CDC through a Republican Congress to halt this research, under the logic that it promotes the cause of gun control.

But how likely is it that this is intentional, to use the US Second Amendment as an ongoing lightning rod for public attention (in a "bread and circuses" sense) while political business continues as usual on the back end (e.g. Paradise Papers)? Obama and a Democratic congress had the opportunity to restart this, which would presumably be just as "common sense" as the actual reforms they have been promoting on this issue, since whoever was actually supported by the facts would presumably have a motivation to set the program back in motion to improve support for their proposals.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by c0lo on Thursday November 09 2017, @03:36AM (6 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 09 2017, @03:36AM (#594399) Journal

    The tyranny would be the restriction itself of the right to bear arms.

    You already gave away you right to punch other in the face, remember that "your liberty ends where my nose begins"?
      I'd say you did it willingly without the government needing to force you - which means it is possible to cede some of your rights without this implying tyranny.

    The 2nd Amendment was the founder's way of pointing out that the right to bear arms is so important and fundamental that it should be mentioned explicitly as a right that must never be infringed—currently, the Constitution doesn't even allow The People to delegate to the government the attendant authorities of this right.

    And if the majority of people agree to repeal the second amendment, it would be tyranny for the government to continue to keep it.

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  • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @03:43AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @03:43AM (#594404)

    Indeed, such a right would be self-contradictory. Try again.

    Also, tyranny implies restriction; a lack of restriction cannot be an example of tyranny. Try again.

    Try again.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @04:06AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @04:06AM (#594412)

      Ah, the idiot libertarian again. I'll better stop here.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @04:45AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @04:45AM (#594433)

    Indeed, such a right would be self-contradictory. Try again.

    Also, tyranny implies restriction; a lack of restriction cannot be an example of tyranny. Try again.

    Try again.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @04:55AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @04:55AM (#594438)

      F/O

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @05:40AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @05:40AM (#594457)

        Try again.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by maxwell demon on Thursday November 09 2017, @08:34AM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Thursday November 09 2017, @08:34AM (#594521) Journal

      Also, tyranny implies restriction

      Such as the restriction of people from deciding what should be restricted and what shouldn't.

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      The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.