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We have a recent report by the US government that climate change is almost certainly caused by humans. However, we don't have the same rigor in gun death statistics; instead policy debate can rely only on FBI crime statistics which aren't directly comparable year-over-year due to changing measurement methodology (see "Caution to users").
This is because the NRA put pressure on the CDC through a Republican Congress to halt this research, under the logic that it promotes the cause of gun control.
But how likely is it that this is intentional, to use the US Second Amendment as an ongoing lightning rod for public attention (in a "bread and circuses" sense) while political business continues as usual on the back end (e.g. Paradise Papers)? Obama and a Democratic congress had the opportunity to restart this, which would presumably be just as "common sense" as the actual reforms they have been promoting on this issue, since whoever was actually supported by the facts would presumably have a motivation to set the program back in motion to improve support for their proposals.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by mhajicek on Thursday November 09 2017, @06:33AM (7 children)
If you were rational you would value a life equally regardless of how it was taken. If gun deaths went from 10 to 1, but machete deaths went from 1 to 100 you would call it a win.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 3, Informative) by BasilBrush on Thursday November 09 2017, @06:41AM (6 children)
It's just the gun lobby cherry picking statistics. It gun crime has gone up, then that's what they would be quoting. It hasn't so they look for something else.
But In this case even when jmorris counted all mass murders, they'd still gone down. And that still wasn't good enough for him.
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(Score: 3, Informative) by mhajicek on Thursday November 09 2017, @07:05AM (5 children)
The statistics I've seen have shown that violent crime has dropped significantly as gun ownership has increased. In addition, states which have enacted legal carry have seen significant drops in violent crime. Violent crime rates are at almost the lowest they've been in decades, and gun ownership is the highest ever.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 2) by BasilBrush on Thursday November 09 2017, @07:12AM (3 children)
That's NRA propaganda.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @08:32AM
Sapienti sat
(Score: 3, Informative) by mhajicek on Thursday November 09 2017, @08:44AM (1 child)
Sure, my data is propoganda, and your propoganda is data. Right.
The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
(Score: 3, Insightful) by BasilBrush on Thursday November 09 2017, @06:03PM
You haven't cited any data. You've just made some nonsense claims about your recollection of data you say you saw.
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(Score: 2) by Wootery on Friday November 10 2017, @11:13AM
You'd best post a source, or the thread will continue the way it's going with people making unsupported factual claims that happen to align with their political stance.