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posted by martyb on Thursday November 09 2017, @01:09PM   Printer-friendly
from the don't-bring-a-paperweight-to-an-encryption-fight dept.

At a press conference, an FBI spokesman blamed industry standard encryption for preventing the agency from accessing the recent Texas mass shooter's locked iPhone. Reuters later reported that the FBI did not try to contact Apple during a 48-hour window in which the shooter's fingerprint may have been able to unlock the phone. Apple said in a statement that after seeing the press conference, the company contacted the FBI itself to offer assistance. Finally, the Washington Post reports (archive) that an FBI official acknowledged Apple's offer but said it did not need the company's assistance:

After the FBI said it was dealing with a phone it couldn't open, Apple reached out to the bureau to learn whether the phone was an iPhone and whether the FBI was seeking assistance. An FBI official responded late Tuesday, saying that it was an iPhone but that the agency was not asking anything of the company at this point. That's because experts at the FBI's lab in Quantico, Va., are trying to determine if there are other methods, such as cloud storage or a linked laptop, that would provide access to the phone's data, these people said. They said that process could take weeks.

If the FBI and Apple had talked to each other in the first two days after the attack, it's possible the device might already be open. That time frame may have been critical because Apple's iPhone "Touch ID" — which uses a fingerprint to unlock the device — stops working after 48 hours. It wasn't immediately clear whether the gunman had activated Touch ID on his phone, but more than 80 percent of iPhone owners do use that feature. If the bureau had consulted the company, Apple engineers would likely have told the bureau to take steps such as putting the dead gunman's finger to the phone to see if doing so would unlock it. It was unclear whether the FBI tried to use the dead man's finger to open the device in the first two days.

In a statement, Apple said: "Our team immediately reached out to the FBI after learning from their press conference on Tuesday that investigators were trying to access a mobile phone. We offered assistance and said we would expedite our response to any legal process they send us."

Also at Engadget.

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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @01:36PM (13 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @01:36PM (#594582)

    They just want warrantless unrestricted access to anything they want for any purpose they can dream up all the time without accountability so encryption available to peons must be done away with.

    Also logging comments by IP and then suggesting previous subject lines inline while typing is kind of skievey, sorta defeats the purpose of AC like having a face fork shadow profile

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by takyon on Thursday November 09 2017, @01:50PM (2 children)

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday November 09 2017, @01:50PM (#594585) Journal

    suggesting previous subject lines inline while typing is kind of skievey

    Are you complaining about the standard autocomplete feature of your web browser? You know, the part where your own web browser saves previously used form data for named form fields by default?

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  • (Score: 1, Offtopic) by realDonaldTrump on Thursday November 09 2017, @02:36PM (9 children)

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Thursday November 09 2017, @02:36PM (#594602) Homepage Journal

    It's great that they track the cyber. I think it's great. How else can you stop the bad guys? The cyber, by the way, here in China they have terrific control over their cyber. They know exactly, exactly what's going on. And soon we will too. The sex trafficking bill is amazing, it's going to cut down tremendously on our cyber problems. Trust me. #MAGA 🇺🇸

    • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @02:49PM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @02:49PM (#594609)

      How much was your sex trafficking bill? Too high or too low?

      • (Score: 1) by realDonaldTrump on Thursday November 09 2017, @04:06PM

        by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Thursday November 09 2017, @04:06PM (#594665) Homepage Journal

        I know CERTAIN people (Dems) don't like the "offtopic" tweets. So I wrote in my journal. Thank you for your support!

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by DannyB on Thursday November 09 2017, @04:39PM (3 children)

        by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Thursday November 09 2017, @04:39PM (#594688) Journal

        I think the Donald's sex trafficking bill in China is not quite as high as it was in Russia, since golden shower type sports cost extra. Especially if you want to record the pee-pee tapes. And especially if it can only be done in a particular hotel room that Obama once stayed in.

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        • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday November 10 2017, @12:23AM (2 children)

          by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Friday November 10 2017, @12:23AM (#594931) Homepage

          As somebody who has dated a dominatrix, I can say that this is true.

          Good dominatrices can turn down the extra money offered by watersports, good porn stars can turn down the extra money offered by "acting" with Blacks, good programmers can turn down the extra money offered by programming in Django or Swift.

          But eventually, you become too ugly to be marketable to "current tastes," and so have to lower your standards.

          • (Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 10 2017, @12:38AM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 10 2017, @12:38AM (#594940)

            How far did the dom lower her standards before she would date you?

            • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday November 10 2017, @12:55AM

              by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Friday November 10 2017, @12:55AM (#594949) Homepage

              I don't think you understand how the game works. She was the only "dom" in her universe, for starters. I'm only an average Joe, I have chest hair and a high tolerance for eccentricities, and was only the "dom" in the sense that she was away from all that shit and helped her with her algebra homework and other boring things. Keep in mind the Star Trek: TNG episode "Masks." It was a hidden allegory for the sun and the moon representing the "dom/sub" relationship, and role-reversal.

              Anyway, in the dungeon, her "dates" are called "Masters of the Universe," and they comprise bankers, C-level executives, and others with too much control. Those people are so in-control of their lives that losing control is their "forbidden fruit." That's where she comes in. Shes used to bitch and moan that her Jewish banker clientele were always wearing nicer panties than she was.

              Dungeons (I still laugh at that how silly that term is, but it is an industry standard) are most likely in big cities nondescript multistory suites with legitimate-looking names, all suites within have panic buttons, and depending on the dungeon there exists a wide variety of rulesets. All (legitimate ones) allow beatings with safety words and panic buttons, some allow watersports, scat, and when you want to wander into the darker aspects that will be discussed offline.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @03:31PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @03:31PM (#594632)

      You're the one person I look up to when it comes to the cyber! It usually takes me an hour or so before I'm ready to cyber depending on what server I'm logged in to and which persona, but you just grab them by the cyber!

      • (Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Thursday November 09 2017, @04:06PM (1 child)

        by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Thursday November 09 2017, @04:06PM (#594663) Homepage

        " It usually takes me an hour or so before I'm ready to cyber "

        Yep, you must be female. Thank Jesus Christ for spittle!

        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @06:21PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @06:21PM (#594739)

          Well, yes, that's how I identify. There! I've disproven that I could possibly be a woman by identifying! Bwahahaha!