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posted by martyb on Thursday November 09 2017, @01:09PM   Printer-friendly
from the don't-bring-a-paperweight-to-an-encryption-fight dept.

At a press conference, an FBI spokesman blamed industry standard encryption for preventing the agency from accessing the recent Texas mass shooter's locked iPhone. Reuters later reported that the FBI did not try to contact Apple during a 48-hour window in which the shooter's fingerprint may have been able to unlock the phone. Apple said in a statement that after seeing the press conference, the company contacted the FBI itself to offer assistance. Finally, the Washington Post reports (archive) that an FBI official acknowledged Apple's offer but said it did not need the company's assistance:

After the FBI said it was dealing with a phone it couldn't open, Apple reached out to the bureau to learn whether the phone was an iPhone and whether the FBI was seeking assistance. An FBI official responded late Tuesday, saying that it was an iPhone but that the agency was not asking anything of the company at this point. That's because experts at the FBI's lab in Quantico, Va., are trying to determine if there are other methods, such as cloud storage or a linked laptop, that would provide access to the phone's data, these people said. They said that process could take weeks.

If the FBI and Apple had talked to each other in the first two days after the attack, it's possible the device might already be open. That time frame may have been critical because Apple's iPhone "Touch ID" — which uses a fingerprint to unlock the device — stops working after 48 hours. It wasn't immediately clear whether the gunman had activated Touch ID on his phone, but more than 80 percent of iPhone owners do use that feature. If the bureau had consulted the company, Apple engineers would likely have told the bureau to take steps such as putting the dead gunman's finger to the phone to see if doing so would unlock it. It was unclear whether the FBI tried to use the dead man's finger to open the device in the first two days.

In a statement, Apple said: "Our team immediately reached out to the FBI after learning from their press conference on Tuesday that investigators were trying to access a mobile phone. We offered assistance and said we would expedite our response to any legal process they send us."

Also at Engadget.

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  • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @02:41PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @02:41PM (#594605)

    They are looking for a connection to groups such as ISIS, Sovereign Citizens, and ZoylentViews.

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @03:52PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 09 2017, @03:52PM (#594654)

    Perhaps I have bad experience with groups like Sovereign Citizens. I don't have experience with that group specifically, but my experience was directly with Southern Christian Identity, which also throws in some extra nonsense about Aryans being the master race, and proximately with various state militias.

    I respect the philosophical underpinnings of anarcho-capitalism and similar political theories. I just wish I could help the people who are involved in those things see that it's not their beliefs in limited government, states rights (but not for cannabis, only for slavery and child abuse, and only for race-based slavery), gun ownership, etc--all very good things in abstract principle (can we have states rights without condoning child abuse and slavery?)--that make them monsters.

    Their problem is that they themselves are narrow-minded, dangerous monsters. They blame some convoluted conspiracy involving Jews¹ and gays when their families fall apart. No, their families fall apart because their heavy-handed, paradoxically authoritarian, abusive horseshit forces people in their family who desire becoming healthy, well-adjusted human beings to choose between blood relatives and living a happy life independent of whatever mood the asshole is in today who thinks he's king of a kingdom with a grand total of 5 subjects and not even a quarter of an acre.

    This is the grand paradox of the far-right I've seen with my own eyes. Get the government off my back, because my suburban kingdom only has room for one petty tyrant!

    ¹ For ISIS, s/Jews/the West/. Perhaps to simplify, the later fork of Yahweh worship always blames all its problems on the previous fork of Yahweh worship. Protestants blame Catholics. Christians blame Jews. Muslims blame Christians. And none of them can see how absolutely similar they all are, how they are all the exact same kind of monster.

    • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Ethanol-fueled on Thursday November 09 2017, @03:58PM (1 child)

      by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Thursday November 09 2017, @03:58PM (#594659) Homepage

      About your conspiracy theories and the Jews, you are right to believe that it is utter hogwash. Some other misguide folks actually believe that Black people dominate the NBA! Such fools, and racists, too. It should be illegal to suggest that Blacks dominate the NBA. Fortunately, regarding the Jews at least, both sides of our congress are working on making it criminal to suggest that Jews are a majority in anything.

      God Bless America!

  • (Score: 2, Offtopic) by realDonaldTrump on Thursday November 09 2017, @04:03PM

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Thursday November 09 2017, @04:03PM (#594660) Homepage Journal

    That's right, we need to protect our people. So we need to know, is ISIS colluding with atheists like Devin? Is the alt-left getting into our military and making our military people violent? So many of our military people are doing violence, who's telling them to do that? We need to get into Devin's cell phone. Apple, who do they think they are? No, we have to open it up. I think security, overall, we have to open it up and we have to use our heads. We have to use common sense.

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by sjames on Thursday November 09 2017, @05:20PM

    by sjames (2882) on Thursday November 09 2017, @05:20PM (#594712) Journal

    If they have a proper warrant, they can ask his cellular carrier. If not, they shouldn't be looking.