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posted by cmn32480 on Friday November 10 2017, @04:49PM   Printer-friendly
from the hackers-paradise dept.

Facebook to Fight Revenge Porn by Letting Potential Victims Upload Nudes in Advance

Submitted via IRC for TheMightyBuzzard

This new protection system works similar to the anti-child-porn detection systems in use at Facebook, and other social media giants like Google, Twitter, Instagram, and others.

It works on a database of file hashes, a cryptographic signature computed for each file.

Facebook says that once an abuser tries to upload an image marked as "revenge porn" in its database, its system will block the upload process. This will work for images shared on the main Facebook service, but also for images shared privately via Messenger, Facebook's IM app. Potential victims will need to upload nude photos of themselves

The weird thing is that in order to build a database of "revenge porn" file hashes, Facebook will rely on potential victims uploading a copy of the nude photo in advance.

This process involves the victim sending a copy of the nude photo to his own account, via Facebook Messenger. This implies uploading a copy of the nude photo on Facebook Messenger, the very same act the victim is trying to prevent.

The victim can then report the photo to Facebook, which will create a hash of the image that the social network will use to block further uploads of the same photo.

This is possible because in April this year, Facebook modified its image reporting process to take into account images showing "revenge porn" acts.

Facebook says it's not storing a copy of the photo, but only computing the file's hash and adding it to its database of revenge porn imagery.

Victims who fear that former or current partners may upload a nude photo online can pro-actively take this step to block the image from ever being uploaded on Facebook and shared among friends.

We won't be doing this. I don't even want to see hashes of you folks naked.

Source: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/facebook-to-fight-revenge-porn-by-letting-potential-victims-upload-nudes-in-advance/

Facebook asks Australians to send nude photos, for safety

"Worried that an ex-boyfriend or girlfriend might post your intimate photos on the internet? Facebook says it has a solution – as long as you'll hand over the photos first.

The social media giant recently announced its new plan to combat "revenge porn," when individuals post nude photos online without the consent of the subject." http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/11/08/facebook-says-it-needs-your-explicit-photos-to-combat-revenge-porn.html


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by tangomargarine on Friday November 10 2017, @05:00PM (25 children)

    by tangomargarine (667) on Friday November 10 2017, @05:00PM (#595190)

    scheme is moronic

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 10 2017, @05:22PM (23 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 10 2017, @05:22PM (#595206) Journal

    Bingo! Tangomargarine wins all the internets for a month.

    The real problem is, there are millions of users who actually think that Facefook really is trustworthy.

    And, if Facefook were trustworthy, WTF makes anyone think that US half-intelligence agencies are trustworthy? If NSA wants a nekkid picture of you for blackmail purposes, make them send someone out to take the picture. Don't give it to them!!

    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday November 10 2017, @05:28PM (22 children)

      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Friday November 10 2017, @05:28PM (#595212) Homepage Journal

      Or just post them yourself. It's difficult to blackmail someone with public knowledge.

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      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday November 10 2017, @05:42PM (4 children)

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Friday November 10 2017, @05:42PM (#595219) Journal

        There is that. The most valid reason that the military had for banning homosexuals, was that they could be blackmailed. Let the homos make the fact that they are homosexual public knowledge, suddenly, they can't be blackmailed for being homos.

        On the other hand, ugly people probably don't want to post their ugly asses for the world to see.

        • (Score: 3, Funny) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday November 10 2017, @06:08PM

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Friday November 10 2017, @06:08PM (#595237) Homepage Journal

          Ron. Jeremy.

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        • (Score: 2, Funny) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday November 10 2017, @06:09PM (2 children)

          by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Friday November 10 2017, @06:09PM (#595238) Homepage

          I disagree. I do agree that blackmail the most valid reason the military (and other agencies) had for disqualifying gays from a security clearance, but the more obvious reason from the military perspective is that they didn't want buttsex and dyking out all over the place. It's difficult to keep discipline when you're surrounded by naked people you're attracted to.

          Funny that, as some armies of antiquity encouraged "brotherly love."

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 10 2017, @10:12PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 10 2017, @10:12PM (#595374)

            ...prejudice dies hard, and the military—and its socially conservative supporters—were not about to let the inconvenient truth get in the way of their bias. They came up with a series of rationales for discrimination, each of which eventually fell: gay people were dubbed a security risk; then criminal; then mentally ill; then a threat to the family; then weak warriors; then a source of discomfort for the fragile egos of straight troops; then a medical risk in the time of AIDS; then tramplers of privacy. Finally, champions of military tradition devised the argument that gay people in uniform were a threat to unit cohesion and military readiness...

            (Slate [slate.com])

            I'm not a soldier, but I would imagine that "brotherly love" could actually promote "unit cohesion."

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 11 2017, @01:25PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 11 2017, @01:25PM (#595571)

              Up until the first jealous fight because so-and-so fucked so-and-so, and so-and-so is mine!

      • (Score: 2) by JNCF on Friday November 10 2017, @05:44PM (16 children)

        by JNCF (4317) on Friday November 10 2017, @05:44PM (#595221) Journal

        But if you're the sort of person who could be blackmailed with nude images, you wouldn't want to do that. I personally wouldn't care, but some people do. This doesn't seem like a helpful solution for those people.

        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday November 10 2017, @06:02PM (15 children)

          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Friday November 10 2017, @06:02PM (#595233) Homepage Journal

          Yeah, my views on that situation are much like my views on abortion though. Don't have unprotected sex if you don't want a kid and don't take pictures of it if you don't want them on the Internet. When exactly did it become hate speech to advise someone to take some responsibility for their actions and not be a complete idiot?

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          • (Score: 2) by JNCF on Friday November 10 2017, @06:51PM (12 children)

            by JNCF (4317) on Friday November 10 2017, @06:51PM (#595272) Journal

            Don't smoke if you don't want cancer, chemotherapy should be illegal. #MAGA

            • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday November 10 2017, @08:50PM (11 children)

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Friday November 10 2017, @08:50PM (#595339) Homepage Journal

              Nah, insurance should. Pay for it and you can have anything you want guilt-free.

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              • (Score: 3, Interesting) by JNCF on Friday November 10 2017, @08:59PM (10 children)

                by JNCF (4317) on Friday November 10 2017, @08:59PM (#595344) Journal

                Anything? Even abortions? Even... insurance?

                • (Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday November 10 2017, @10:34PM (9 children)

                  by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Friday November 10 2017, @10:34PM (#595382) Homepage Journal

                  You don't pay for insurance. Insurance is a bet. You're betting that you're going to be sicker than most of the other people using the same bookie.

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                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 11 2017, @06:39AM (3 children)

                    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 11 2017, @06:39AM (#595516)

                    That's not how health insurance works. The rates the company pays are lower than what you'd pay off you wanted to pay out of pocket because they were negotiated ahead of time.

                    You may get "lucky" and need a multi-million dollar surgery, but it doesn't take much health care to wind up saving money via insurance.

                    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday November 11 2017, @10:48AM (2 children)

                      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday November 11 2017, @10:48AM (#595550) Homepage Journal

                      Wow, you haven't clue one, do you? Insurance companies pay quite a lot more than you pay if you say at the outset you'll be paying cash.

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                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 11 2017, @04:35PM (1 child)

                        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 11 2017, @04:35PM (#595627)

                        Only because they don't perform anything beyond the bare minimum knowing they may be on the hook for it. Insurance companies at least have predictable patterns about what will and won't be covered.

                        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday November 11 2017, @04:57PM

                          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday November 11 2017, @04:57PM (#595635) Homepage Journal

                          Wrong. Do some actual research. The exact same hospital stay with the exact same line items will cost you significantly more paying with insurance than with cash. That's not even taking into account the cash-only medical facilities that've sprung up since Obamacare which charge even less than the cash price at anywhere that takes insurance.

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                  • (Score: 2) by JNCF on Saturday November 11 2017, @03:31PM (4 children)

                    by JNCF (4317) on Saturday November 11 2017, @03:31PM (#595602) Journal

                    I agree with your skepticism of insurance, but not your definition of paying. I suppose I can't pay for lottery tickets, stocks, bonds, gold coins, bitcoins, or tulips, either? Does big daddy government need to protect me from all bets, or is this just an ad hoc rule you came up with because you don't like insurance?

                    • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday November 11 2017, @03:56PM (3 children)

                      by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday November 11 2017, @03:56PM (#595612) Homepage Journal

                      Oh you're paying when you place a bet but you're not paying for a lottery win, a stock price increase, healthcare, etc... You're paying for the chance that you may come out on top, though probably not.

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                      • (Score: 2) by JNCF on Saturday November 11 2017, @04:45PM (2 children)

                        by JNCF (4317) on Saturday November 11 2017, @04:45PM (#595632) Journal

                        And that should be illegal, as per your comment before last? You can turn in your libertarian card at the nearest gun store, Flighty Uzzard.

                        • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday November 11 2017, @05:03PM (1 child)

                          by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Saturday November 11 2017, @05:03PM (#595638) Homepage Journal

                          Nah, that was just me goading you over your parent comment. You know, saying something as absurd as what I was replying to...

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                          • (Score: 2) by JNCF on Saturday November 11 2017, @05:23PM

                            by JNCF (4317) on Saturday November 11 2017, @05:23PM (#595643) Journal

                            And here, that's what I thought I was doing...

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 10 2017, @09:02PM (1 child)

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday November 10 2017, @09:02PM (#595345)

            Birth control is not flawless. It's better to not have sex at all if you don't want a kid. Also, hope you don't get raped.

            But at least abortion is legal so the problem can be taken care of if desired.

            • (Score: 3, Informative) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday November 10 2017, @10:40PM

              by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Friday November 10 2017, @10:40PM (#595385) Homepage Journal

              Rape, incest, and responsibly using birth control but it still failing are extremely rare exceptions that I'll be happy to address separately. For the overwhelming majority of abortion cases though, it's being used instead of a condom. Example: In 2013 29,007 abortions were performed for black women in NYC while only 24,108 black women gave birth.

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by realDonaldTrump on Friday November 10 2017, @07:34PM

    by realDonaldTrump (6614) on Friday November 10 2017, @07:34PM (#595292) Homepage Journal

    Nobody ever looks at the Original Submission. But I put in a very telling quote from Mark Zuckerberg. He said "they trust me -- dumb fucks." Let me tell you, people who trust him are very foolish. Very foolish! He wants to be your president. Don't do it! He's a smart cookie. But a very bad or sick guy. There is something bad or sick going on with him. #TRUMP2020