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posted by Fnord666 on Saturday November 11 2017, @06:53AM   Printer-friendly
from the can't-choose-your-family dept.

The genes don't lie:

A large international team of researchers has found that Neolithic hunter-gatherers living in several parts of Europe interbred with farmers from the Near East. In their paper published in the journal Nature, the team describes comparing DNA from several early groups in Europe and evidence of interbreeding.

The Neolithic period, often described as the New Stone Age, was a period of human history from approximately 15,000 BCE to 3,000 BCE. It was a time defined by the development of settlements and the refinement of tools and the arts. Prior research has shown that people living in what is now Germany, Hungary and Spain were mostly hunter-gatherers during the early Neolithic period, but were "replaced" by farmers moving in from the Near East (Anatolia). In this new effort, the researchers suggest that interbreeding between the two groups led to the decline of the hunter-gatherers. The end result is that most modern Europeans are descended from the Near East immigrant farmers, but have remnants of hunter-gatherer DNA.

To learn more about the early history of humans in Europe, the researchers obtained and analyzed 180 DNA samples of people from early Hungary, Germany and Spain dating from between 6,000 and 2,200 BCE.

Ironic that Europeans resist admitting Turkey to the EU when they're descended from people from Asia Minor.

Mark Lipson et al. Parallel palaeogenomic transects reveal complex genetic history of early European farmers, Nature (2017). DOI: 10.1038/nature24476


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  • (Score: 2, Troll) by aristarchus on Saturday November 11 2017, @07:31AM (13 children)

    by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday November 11 2017, @07:31AM (#595521) Journal

    I am always surprised at the lack of knowledge of Soylentils. Who do you think Anatolians are? Or were? And what about that fine gay fascist porn movie, "300"? Completely wrong, ahistorical, not accurate, fake, racist, American.

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  • (Score: 2, Touché) by khallow on Saturday November 11 2017, @08:04AM (6 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Saturday November 11 2017, @08:04AM (#595529) Journal

    I am always surprised at the lack of knowledge of Soylentils.

    Perhaps if you learned more of these Soylentils, you would be less surprised by lack of knowledge of them?

    Who do you think Anatolians are?

    People who lived in Anatolia. It's in the name.

    And what about that fine gay fascist porn movie, "300"? Completely wrong, ahistorical, not accurate, fake, racist, American.

    How long did it take you to figure that out? I figured it out when I realized that the movie was in 3-D. You don't see any 3-D people on the pots!

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Saturday November 11 2017, @08:15AM (5 children)

      by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday November 11 2017, @08:15AM (#595530) Journal

      You don't see any 3-D people on the pots!

      Good point, khallow, good point. But who were the Anatolians before they moved to Anatolia? And what is the difference between a Turk and a Kurd?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 11 2017, @08:22AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 11 2017, @08:22AM (#595533)

        Who was any people if you go far enough back ?
        Your 'distinctions' are irrelevant

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 11 2017, @02:36PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 11 2017, @02:36PM (#595586)

        Pre-Anatolians.

      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Sunday November 12 2017, @01:24AM (1 child)

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Sunday November 12 2017, @01:24AM (#595812) Journal

        Hittites? Lydians? Lydians? Carians? Urartians?

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        • (Score: 2) by arulatas on Monday November 13 2017, @07:35PM

          by arulatas (3600) on Monday November 13 2017, @07:35PM (#596398)

          Splitters

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  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday November 11 2017, @03:24PM (5 children)

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday November 11 2017, @03:24PM (#595598) Journal

    What kind of Greek are you? That is supposed to be the ultimate Hellenic feel-good movie.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 11 2017, @03:40PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 11 2017, @03:40PM (#595603)

      Athenian, probably.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by aristarchus on Saturday November 11 2017, @05:54PM (2 children)

      by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday November 11 2017, @05:54PM (#595665) Journal

      Frank Miller is a racist bastard. The movie was all about the "Threat from the East", or, Islam. And for some reason the Persians all seemed to be darker skinned and really kind of Arabic looking. And most of the details about Greek culture of the time were fabrications. "300" was a right-wing (gay fascist, kinda like Milo) American movie, and besides being roughly based on the battle of Thermopylae, has nothing to do with Hellas or history.

      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Sunday November 12 2017, @01:20AM (1 child)

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Sunday November 12 2017, @01:20AM (#595810) Journal

        Have it your way. But to be fair most Americans and many others think Persians and Arabs are synonymous, so it's a common ignorance. Put it to the man on the street in Des Moines and he'll look at you blankly when you suggest that is not what Persians look like. So a case can be made that it's ignorant rather than racist.

        For what it's worth the Spartans are as weird and cartoonish as the Persians are made out to be.

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        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Sunday November 12 2017, @09:06PM

          by aristarchus (2645) on Sunday November 12 2017, @09:06PM (#595992) Journal

          the Spartans are as weird and cartoonish as the Persians are made out to be.

          That's just Gerard Butler, North English or Lowland Scot, with CGI abs.

          The ignorance is not intentional, but the manipulation of it toward racism and anti-semitism is quite intentional.