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posted by cmn32480 on Tuesday November 14 2017, @04:56AM   Printer-friendly
from the nobody-else-will-look-out-for-you dept.

In Da Nang Vietnam, Australia and 10 other countries have tried to revive the TPP without the US.

Even though the analysis of the TPP has shown that the so called 'free trade agreement' has only minimal benefits and many drawbacks for developed nations the Australian Prime Minister is still set on having the agreement ratified. The Australian Prime Minister may be trying to push through the TPP before his government collapses due to the citizenship audit which is rapidly culling members of his party which could result in his party losing power in parliament. With the majority of the Australian public being against the TPP and with Malcolm Turnbull facing an election soon the reasons for this move to try to ratify the TPP is unknown.

If this trade agreement is accepted it will be the last in a series of detrimental trade agreements where Australia is on the wrong end of the stick. With Australia still reeling from the impact of the terrible China-Australia Free Trade Agreement the move to try to bring in another bad trade agreement may spell the end of the liberal government's long run in parliament.


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 14 2017, @06:30AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 14 2017, @06:30AM (#596683)

    agree about.... it is that a lot of people in a lot of disparate nations are electing officials that are not acting in their interests under the false notion that someday they will be in the group whose interests those officials do represent and prefer spending time in that imaginary world rather than in the real world where they could enjoy freedoms where they are today if only they would elect officials who shared those values.

    I am glad your Canadian grassroots efforts lead to change. Here in America we seem to be regressing on that front, having polarized harshly into the alt-left and the alt-right, with both groups mocking rather than listening to, the alt-inbetween.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 14 2017, @10:50AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 14 2017, @10:50AM (#596735)

    It's pretty lame to call "both sides" in what is happening in the US. The right has simply gone ape shit - seemed to start during GW Bush when the propaganda machine started 24/7 with war/fear/guns/gold/gays. End of America!111!

    • (Score: 2) by bzipitidoo on Tuesday November 14 2017, @12:32PM (3 children)

      by bzipitidoo (4388) on Tuesday November 14 2017, @12:32PM (#596764) Journal

      The right has gained, no doubt there.

      As for going ape shit, that's hardly new. Those sort of people have always been around. About 30% of the population finds thinking for themselves such hard work, life very uncertain and scary, and would rather follow a Great Leader anywhere, even if that means war and mass executions, in hopes that it will lead to the Promised Land. They won't follow just anyone, has to be someone who seems to be one of them.

      When they become so powerful that they can push the nation their way, watch out. That's what lead to Nazi Germany and Khmer Rouge Cambodia. Such movements have soon collapsed when the nation is no longer able to maintain the lies and illusions, and the war machine runs short on material, labor, and cannon fodder. It may be that soldiers and war casualties disproportionately come from this 30% of people. The worst thing the rest of us can do is stand by and let the greedy rich push those people to the edge, corrupt and steal all they can, let the powerful make life genuinely more uncertain and scary for them, meanwhile framing some other group for their troubles. Blame the liberals, or the Jews, Muslims, Catholics, brown people, gay people and purple cartoon characters, scientists and nerds, even financiers, whatever. Revolutions feed on trouble.

      Now that we have nuclear bombs, humanity can't afford total war, that's a consequence of this problem that we can no longer accept.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 14 2017, @02:11PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 14 2017, @02:11PM (#596790)

        and it never seems to thin out the people causing the problem. they take root like weeds and take over again, given enough time and distractiosn that the other mindsets cause.

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 14 2017, @03:39PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday November 14 2017, @03:39PM (#596828)

        Hitler demonized the Jews, blaming them for pretty much everything. Jews were the target of the day.

        Today's left likes to blame the white males. Merely posting "It's OK to be white" on college campuses has caused the left to freak out pretty well. The left employs a "progressive stack" instead of equality; they have to have a villain to blame.

        The rest of the politics mostly match up too. The only difference is perhaps the choice of globalism over nationalism.

        Like today's left, Hitler had a fondness for Islam. You can find Korans with swastikas on the cover.

        Like today's left, Hitler was into social programs. He made workers join a union. He exerted government control over industry.

        The more things change, the more they stay the same.

        • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Tuesday November 14 2017, @10:41PM

          by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Tuesday November 14 2017, @10:41PM (#597027)

          So much historical revisionism in this post I don't even know where to start.

          Possibly the stupidest thing is that there is a "left" in US politics.