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posted by Fnord666 on Friday November 17 2017, @09:32AM   Printer-friendly
from the nobody-say-nothin' dept.

The Internet never forgets.

Google's general counsel has signalled the company intends to fight, hard, against broad interpretations of the European Union's right to be forgotten.

Kent Walker, the company's general counsel and senior veep, put his name to a strongly-worded post on Wednesday, US time. Titled "Defending access to lawful information at Europe's highest court", the post argued that forthcoming cases in the European Court of Justice "represent a serious assault on the public's right to access lawful information."

Walker wrote that French courts' request for a European Court of Justice ruling on personal data collection effectively seeks a regime under which "all mentions of criminality or political affiliation should automatically be purged from search results, without any consideration of public interest."


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by AthanasiusKircher on Saturday November 18 2017, @01:11AM (5 children)

    by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Saturday November 18 2017, @01:11AM (#598481) Journal

    The solution is to quit doing that. Nothing at all to do with the subject at hand.

    Actually, no. It has EVERYTHING to do with the subject at hand. And it's not just an issue of branding minor things as "sex offenses" -- it's things like a newspaper or other media source reporting on a person who was arrested or even questioned for something to do with a sex offense, but there's never any retraction when it's discovered that it was just a "fishing expedition" by the cops or some other complete screw-up or error... maybe a little blurb buried on page 10 if there's an actual trial and acquittal. If it doesn't get that far -- only an arrest, but subsequent discovery that it was unfounded -- what recourse does the person have when the top hit for their name is a completely bogus news story from years ago about a sex offense that never was real?

    This kind of crap happens a lot if you expand the list to all crimes -- though even have some vague association with a sex offense charge is likely enough to get summarily rejected by employers, landlords, etc. when they do a cursory internet search for your name. Lots of innocent people are accused. And, as in this thread, lots of guilty people's crimes are exaggerated by the media and/or by law enforcement.

    Sorry, but UNTIL you solve ALL those problems (likely impossible), it IS directly on point with the "subject at hand." I'm not saying the "right to be forgotten" as implemented in Europe now is the best way or even a reasonable way to go, but there are a multitude of scenarios where some recourse for dealing with this inaccurate info makes sense given all the levels of imperfect information in our systems and the way they can distort one's reputation unjustly.

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  • (Score: 2) by Arik on Saturday November 18 2017, @02:46AM (2 children)

    by Arik (4543) on Saturday November 18 2017, @02:46AM (#598518) Journal
    The problem is people do stupid things.

    Your solution is to try to protect them from themselves, at the expense of everyone's liberty. Basically the impulse is to wrap the entire world in nerf foam. You can't actually do that, of course, but the trouble is you can come close enough to really screw us up as a species.

    That 'solution,' you see, is not a solution at all. It's like pouring gasoline on a, well, a gasoline fire. This impulse to nerf everything and protect everyone from harsh reality is exactly why we have so many stupid people!
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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by dry on Saturday November 18 2017, @06:41AM

      by dry (223) on Saturday November 18 2017, @06:41AM (#598590) Journal

      The problem is people do stupid things.

      And often learn not to do those stupid things again.
      Are you really arguing that if someone makes a mistake, usually when young and stupid, it should be held over their heads for the rest of their lives?
      How is it infringing on your liberty if you don't know I did something stupid 40 years ago and learned from it?

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by AthanasiusKircher on Saturday November 18 2017, @01:44PM

      by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Saturday November 18 2017, @01:44PM (#598653) Journal

      Huh? What are you talking about? I gave examples of people who are erroneously arrested and receive media attention for being associated with a crime they had absolutely nothing to do with.

      Who did "stupid things" there? The police perhaps. (Perhaps... They could also have made mistakes in good faith too.. It does happen.) So what's your solution in that case? Liberty is certainly an important goal (I agree), but so should be justice. What's your solution: more control of the press to stop undue media attention or force takedowns of articles or...? ANY solution to such an issue is going to involve reduced freedom somewhere if it will lead to a JUST outcome, so it's just a matter of where/how.

  • (Score: 2) by t-3 on Saturday November 18 2017, @01:41PM (1 child)

    by t-3 (4907) on Saturday November 18 2017, @01:41PM (#598651)

    It's even worse if you get involved in the justice system after being acquitted out let go - they treat every Stewart as if it were a conviction, so it's guilty before and despite being proven innocent every time.

    • (Score: 2) by t-3 on Saturday November 18 2017, @01:43PM

      by t-3 (4907) on Saturday November 18 2017, @01:43PM (#598652)

      Fucking autocorrect - * acquitted or let go * they treat every arrest *