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posted by Fnord666 on Friday November 17 2017, @09:32AM   Printer-friendly
from the nobody-say-nothin' dept.

The Internet never forgets.

Google's general counsel has signalled the company intends to fight, hard, against broad interpretations of the European Union's right to be forgotten.

Kent Walker, the company's general counsel and senior veep, put his name to a strongly-worded post on Wednesday, US time. Titled "Defending access to lawful information at Europe's highest court", the post argued that forthcoming cases in the European Court of Justice "represent a serious assault on the public's right to access lawful information."

Walker wrote that French courts' request for a European Court of Justice ruling on personal data collection effectively seeks a regime under which "all mentions of criminality or political affiliation should automatically be purged from search results, without any consideration of public interest."


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 19 2017, @01:43AM (14 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 19 2017, @01:43AM (#598808)

    The law is an ass. We need more alternatives that can't be shut down.

    You can parrot the words, but do you know their meaning? You can't hold a sound and consistent view that includes both voting voters as the root of ultimate authority in social interactions along with "righteous disobedience" to the same law produced by the consequences of those voting voters.

    Which one is it? Is law sacred, or is law something we are to judge for ourselves as individuals?

  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday November 19 2017, @03:18AM (13 children)

    by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday November 19 2017, @03:18AM (#598828) Journal

    You can't hold a sound and consistent view that includes both voting voters as the root of ultimate authority in social interactions along with "righteous disobedience" to the same law produced by the consequences of those voting voters.

    Of course I can.

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    La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 19 2017, @06:53PM (12 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 19 2017, @06:53PM (#599003)

      Then you're using a fundamentally flawed viewpoint that effectively believes that "east" is simultaneously "west", which does explain your broken attempts at logic. But why then would anyone take what you post seriously? And why would you continue to proclaim obviously wrecked premises?

      • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday November 19 2017, @08:04PM (11 children)

        by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday November 19 2017, @08:04PM (#599022) Journal

        Then you're using a fundamentally flawed viewpoint that effectively believes that "east" is simultaneously "west",

        No at all. The flaw is in your comprehension of what was written.

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        La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 19 2017, @08:10PM (10 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 19 2017, @08:10PM (#599025)

          What you wrote was obvious, the flaw obvious, and the explanation of the flaw straightforward.

          The problem is that your sense of self-delusion is near-impenetrable. I say "near", because your follow-up anonymous comments whining about how others disagree with you shows that you're aware of the cracks in your facade and are desperately trying to ignore them.

          • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday November 19 2017, @08:31PM (9 children)

            by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday November 19 2017, @08:31PM (#599028) Journal

            Your choice to remain ignorant and obtuse is yours alone.

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            La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 19 2017, @08:47PM (8 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 19 2017, @08:47PM (#599030)

              And here we have you mentally projecting your own flaws onto others who do not have them. You can parrot popular phrases [soylentnews.org] and use tiny, vague phrases [soylentnews.org] to present yourself as being thoughtful, but when pressed for details, you resort to willful blindness, self-delusion, and blatant lies [soylentnews.org].

              You might find this tiny, popular phrase useful: you can't handle the truth! [youtube.com]

              • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday November 19 2017, @10:42PM (7 children)

                by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday November 19 2017, @10:42PM (#599052) Journal

                I think you have mistaken me for someone who cares what you think and finds you anything more than mildly amusing. I mean, I could respond, if there was something to respond to. If you simply read what I wrote and weren't trying to be contrary for its own sake, you would understand what was written. If you want an argument, first you have to make one.

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                La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 19 2017, @11:30PM (6 children)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 19 2017, @11:30PM (#599061)

                  I read what you wrote, but unlike you, I also understand what you wrote. Do you know the context of the phrase you used, "the law is an ass"? It is used to highlight the idiocy and injustice regularly encountered in law. It therefore follows that if qualities of a law include idiocy and injustice, why honor such a law in the first place? The phrase is not a mere empty platitude, but instead a highly-charged phrase not entirely dissimilar in quality to "give to Caesar that which is Caesar's" and "when injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty".

                  If the law is idiotic and unjust, then a sane approach (for a free person; slaves can simply obey their owners) would be to reject the law, even if voting voters were the mechanism by which the idiotic and unjust law was set in place.

                  And yes, you DO deeply care about what others think about you, which is why you are so mind-bogglingly desperate to hide your fundamental premises, or try to justify them in hilariously ineffective form in the rare case where you do attempt to openly defend them. What you are is pitiable and wretched. What you could become is thoughtful and liked, but to do that you must first begin to think, which necessitates an honest examination of your worldviews, testing them for consistency, identifying and resolving internal contradictions, being straightforward and honest in your communication, and cultivating an ability to entertain and examine ideas that oppose your own. Now, why do I care about you? I care because I would like to see less garbage and more gleam on the streets of Soylent News.

                  • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Sunday November 19 2017, @11:50PM (5 children)

                    by fustakrakich (6150) on Sunday November 19 2017, @11:50PM (#599065) Journal

                    I also understand what you wrote.

                    :-) Obviously you don't, or you do, but it offends your sensitivities. Sounds like a personal problem.

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                    La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 20 2017, @12:19AM (4 children)

                      by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 20 2017, @12:19AM (#599070)

                      Not only do I understand what you wrote, but I explained what you wrote, and didn't understand, to you [soylentnews.org].

                      That your only response is a snide but otherwise empty comment [soylentnews.org] to my fleshed out argument [soylentnews.org] is evidence that you are unable to respond to said argument.

                      What offends my sensibilities is a glaringly self-contradictory set of views. If you wish to be continually called out like this, then by all means keep posting that government is bad while simultaneously (albeit in other posts) stating that government is the only hope of humanity.

                      • (Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday November 20 2017, @12:29AM (3 children)

                        by fustakrakich (6150) on Monday November 20 2017, @12:29AM (#599073) Journal

                        I explained what you wrote

                        You explained nothing but an unrelated personal opinion of the messenger. There is no other way to respond to you. Whatever your intentions are, knock yourself out, it's all good.

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                        La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 20 2017, @12:44AM (2 children)

                          by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 20 2017, @12:44AM (#599077)

                          There is no other way to respond to you.

                          We agree. There is no other way for you to respond to me that doesn't involve examining your own premises, recognizing the contradiction within, and then willfully choosing to either discard your broken previosuly-held premise and cast about for a more suitable one, or to fanatically reject logic and reason while maintaining a death-grip on your self-falsified premise while shrieking ever louder that there is no possible way that you yourself could be mistaken - THE FLAW MUST BE WITH EVERYONE ELSE!!!

                          Your words and behavior here shows readers the path you are currently on. There's still time to discard the garbage in your brain that you are deathly afraid of revealing, and to learn to think so you can join rational humanity.