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on Friday November 17 2017, @10:54PM
from the engineers-need-artists-to-keep-them-honest dept.
from the engineers-need-artists-to-keep-them-honest dept.
A very clever (imo) artist has developed a simple trap for autonomous cars --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thuN2HD6m2s
Less than 90 seconds of video, no sound. If you get it right away it's only a minute.
Oh, and if you didn't get the title, there is this,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heffalump
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(Score: 5, Insightful) by tftp on Saturday November 18 2017, @01:08AM (5 children)
The real set of rules by which the world operates is extremely complex. A human child, a construct that is considerably more complex than a computer, needs about 20 years to learn the basics.
A robot car, even one with AI, can be stopped by simply walking in front of it on a narrow road. Another guy behind, and hijacking is complete. What will a human do in this case? Many will just floor it. They know that twelve is better than six. Will we teach an AI that homicide is sometimes OK? When? Humans struggle with this problem for centuries. Worse still, humans are responsible for their actions and won't be doing GTA just for fun, otherwise they will be imprisoned or executed. But how can you punish a robot?
Given that, a lesser than AI control structure will be totally helpless. Modern cars apparently understand and obey hand signs that police sometimes uses. Do you think the car will realize that there is no police car around? On freeways autonomous trucks will be boxed in, stopped and cargo reloaded before police comes. Those robot cars can be fooled by many ways.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 18 2017, @02:41AM (1 child)
You lost me. What does comparing 12 and six have to do with a carjacking?
If the 12 vs 6 thing is a non sequitur and is meant to stand on its own, its lack of context is also confusing. Twelve what is better than six? Cookies? Kisses? Kicks in the nads? Lashes? Minutes standing naked in boiling/freezing temperatures?
(Score: 5, Informative) by Farkus888 on Saturday November 18 2017, @02:47AM
It is a play on the line "it is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6". 12 being jurors and 6 being the number of people carrying a casket.
(Score: 2) by darkfeline on Saturday November 18 2017, @05:39AM (2 children)
So you're saying a human will choose homicide when faced with an ambiguous situation? You're not helping your case if you're arguing against self-driving cars.
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(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday November 18 2017, @09:03AM
They're carjackers not pedestrians looking at their phones.
I haven't seen captchas from Google asking me to tell the difference between carjackers, pranksters or inattentive pedestrians yet. So I doubt their cars will handle such scenarios well ;).
Most current AIs are still far far behind in many ways. Compare the mistakes they make vs the mistakes "dumb animals" make. The mistakes AIs make show how little they actually understand the world in practical ways compared to animals.
Might still be enough for some purposes but don't be fooled into thinking they actually are that advanced.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by sjames on Saturday November 18 2017, @11:18AM
That depends on the motive of the two people trapping the car. If their intent is to harm the passengers, taking a run at them might well be justified.