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Zimbabwe awaits news on Mugabe's future
Zimbabweans are waiting to see what steps the military will take next after seizing control of the country. President Robert Mugabe is said to be under house arrest but the whereabouts of his wife Grace, who was bidding to succeed him as president, are unknown.
South African ministers have been in the capital Harare meeting the army and political parties. The Southern African Development Community (SADC) regional bloc will hold emergency talks on Thursday.
President Mugabe, 93, has been in control of Zimbabwe since it gained independence from Britain in 1980. But the power struggle over who might succeed him, between Mrs Mugabe and her rival former vice-president Emmerson Mnangagwa, has split the ruling Zanu-PF party in recent months.
More about Zimbabwe and former President Robert Mugabe.
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CNN: Zimbabwe: Talks underway to form transitional government, source says
NYT editorial: For Zimbabwe, a Coup Isn't the Answer
Extras from BBC: Zimbabwe: Did Robert Mugabe finally go too far? - BBC News
Zimbabwe latest: How can you tell if a coup is happening?
Update: 'Mugabe Must Go': Thousands in Zimbabwe Rally Against Leader
Zimbabwe: Zanu-PF leaders meeting to decide Mugabe future
Pressure weighs on Mugabe to quit after mass protests
Update 2: Zanu-PF has removed Mugabe as party leader, and he may be impeached if he does not resign the Presidency by Monday.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Sunday November 19 2017, @04:47PM (5 children)
*Anonymous Coward comes along and urges you to take the red pill*
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(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 19 2017, @05:10PM (4 children)
Undoubtedly that is exactly what some readers were thinking, I bet quite a few chortles went into some coffee mugs seeing Phoenix666 talk about failed cultural mixing.
The US is a great example of how culture mixing can work pretty well. There are millions of muslims, jews, christians, buddhists, and even more esoteric religions / cultures living together mostly fine. I credit our strong governments (fed/state/local) that are able to enforce our relatively decent laws that support freedom. Yes there are massive problems, but I'm talking about the day to day stuff for average citizens. If some muslims want to enforce sharia law in the US they are going to get a pretty good dose of cultural intolerance and in some cases will get a good dose of our worst system: prison.
We don't have to like each other, but we are not allowed to let that extend into violence or persecution.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 19 2017, @10:34PM
When your country USA collapses financially you will see civil war.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 20 2017, @05:04AM
The muslims are not mixing. They still control their own, keeping them in the fold.
They don't get far with sharia... yet. There is now talk about doing official sharia for some parts of France, which is a quarter muslim. Perhaps it won't happen until France is a third muslim. Ultimately, it will happen.
In the history of the world, how many places can you find that have escaped islam? I can only think of southern Spain and most of Israel. Lebanon was Christian, Afghanistan was Buddhist... and the cancer grows to conquer the whole earth.
Muslim population in the USA is rapidly growing. Once it reaches a certain level, it will demand and get a special status. Once it solidly dominates, the genocide of non-muslims begins.
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday November 20 2017, @01:48PM (1 child)
Indubitably. But as those chortles issue from the reflexively racist, they don't bother me much.
And that is the cultural mixing that has been my baseline. America has done a great job incorporating influences from every part of the globe, and that makes the country stronger. That's as long as the superstructure of mores has remained intact. But that superstructure is nearly done in, now. Most of the damage has been from the inside. The powerful and connected have made a mockery of the rule of law. The average citizen has been complacent and allowed those trends to continue. So America has lost its sense of self, and strange, marginal causes and systems have been able to seize center stage in the national discourse.
If we don't have a conservative revolution ("conservative" in the political science sense of restoring what was before), the rich, powerful country America has been will quickly lose everything and the world will be much the poorer for it--imagine a world dominated by China, and shudder.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 20 2017, @05:01PM
You're confusing conservative with reactionary.
They aren't incompatible, so it's an easy mistake to make.
Reactionary: seeking the status quo ante, trying to restore what came before.
Conservative: changing things by slow, incremental changes.
Conservative contrasts with radical. It's quite possible to have a radical reactionary.